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<blockquote data-quote="donna723" data-source="post: 196519" data-attributes="member: 1883"><p><strong><em>"If a students receives a 4 on a report card, well, the chances of them passing the class at all in zilch. The practice was put in place to insure that a child "has a chance" to pass."</em></strong></p><p> </p><p>I may be the ultimate old-fashioned mama but I think we're doing our kids a huge injustice! If they do nothing in a class and get a "4", why <em>should</em> they have any hopes of passing that class? That's supposed to be the incentive not to get the "4" in the first place! If you fail the class, you take it again ... and again. If you never pass it, you don't graduate, and that's as it should be. If you don't learn the required amount to graduate, you don't graduate! Period! Otherwise, that diploma is meaningless. <span style="font-size: 9px">(It's not that hard! There were some pretty dumb kids who managed to graduate when I did - but they did it honestly and nobody "gave" them anything!)</span> They're taking away all the incentive to actually learn something! We need to worry a whole lot less about their precious "self esteem" and more about teaching how it is in the real world that they will have to live in! Why <em>should</em> they feel good about themselves or have any hopes of passing a class if they've done absolutely nothing and have a grade of "4"! The "self esteem" should come from putting forth an effort and actually accomplishing something that you can be proud of, not having it handed to you! Somewhere along the line we've lost track of that! Giving them credit for mastering 60% of the knowledge of the subject that they don't really have allows them to pass the class with only a minimum of effort. Maybe that's why so many kids going to college these days have to take remedial courses to make up for what they didn't learn in high school!</p><p> </p><p>What is this teaching them? When you have a job and only put forth 4% of the effort required, you will very soon be out the door and nobody will give a rats rear about your "self esteem"! Many of todays kids have been so petted and pampered and fussed over and worried about they're going to be totally useless when they're turned out in the real world and have to stand on their own two feet! Think about it this way ... how would you like to find out that the doctor doing your surgery didn't really put forth much effort in medical school - they just <em>gave</em> him good grades because they were worried about his self-esteem! Just MHO!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donna723, post: 196519, member: 1883"] [B][I]"If a students receives a 4 on a report card, well, the chances of them passing the class at all in zilch. The practice was put in place to insure that a child "has a chance" to pass."[/I][/B] I may be the ultimate old-fashioned mama but I think we're doing our kids a huge injustice! If they do nothing in a class and get a "4", why [I]should[/I] they have any hopes of passing that class? That's supposed to be the incentive not to get the "4" in the first place! If you fail the class, you take it again ... and again. If you never pass it, you don't graduate, and that's as it should be. If you don't learn the required amount to graduate, you don't graduate! Period! Otherwise, that diploma is meaningless. [SIZE=1](It's not that hard! There were some pretty dumb kids who managed to graduate when I did - but they did it honestly and nobody "gave" them anything!)[/SIZE] They're taking away all the incentive to actually learn something! We need to worry a whole lot less about their precious "self esteem" and more about teaching how it is in the real world that they will have to live in! Why [I]should[/I] they feel good about themselves or have any hopes of passing a class if they've done absolutely nothing and have a grade of "4"! The "self esteem" should come from putting forth an effort and actually accomplishing something that you can be proud of, not having it handed to you! Somewhere along the line we've lost track of that! Giving them credit for mastering 60% of the knowledge of the subject that they don't really have allows them to pass the class with only a minimum of effort. Maybe that's why so many kids going to college these days have to take remedial courses to make up for what they didn't learn in high school! What is this teaching them? When you have a job and only put forth 4% of the effort required, you will very soon be out the door and nobody will give a rats rear about your "self esteem"! Many of todays kids have been so petted and pampered and fussed over and worried about they're going to be totally useless when they're turned out in the real world and have to stand on their own two feet! Think about it this way ... how would you like to find out that the doctor doing your surgery didn't really put forth much effort in medical school - they just [I]gave[/I] him good grades because they were worried about his self-esteem! Just MHO! [/QUOTE]
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