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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 249237" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Close, DDD. The mst therapist said that if my therapist would give the same test as they were going to give, that I could request judge to accept that instead and she probably would. Now, He said the courts did not ask for any specific area to be evaluation'd on me, just that I receive a psychiatric test. So, the person from the mental health dept had planned on giving the MMPI-2. I googled that and it is a standard test for criminals and inmates to find out what their problem is. Mind you, the testor/therapist only rec'd a piece of paper (court order) saying to do a psychiatric evaluation on me from Department of Juvenile Justice as being a parent of a juvenile. So, they chose the standard- which is used for people who might be criminals or have criminal thoughts that could influence the kid. But, another search indicated that it also is a standard personality type test. In both explanations, it appears that it is impossible to walk away without there being some issue. For instance, it questions about social life to see if the person has difficulties socially. (I'm giving a very brief synopsis here). I'm sure I'd show a problem there because I'm introverted to begin with and am a single parent who doesn't go out and party. But based on this test, I would have a major social difficulty socially. Never mind that I'm nearly 50 and don't care.</p><p></p><p>I have no faith in it and as I told the mst guy, the point of the test is to see if I need to be in therapy, obviously. I'm already in therapy. If I submit something to show the judge that I'm already in therapy, what point would there be to take the test? How many of us would have our kid take one specific test and revolve the kid's entire treatment plan around it and cast his diagnosis in stone from it? I wouldn't. Especially when it is a test to find out what is wrong, not IF there's something wrong.</p><p></p><p>But again, it isn;'t the test as much as what that will lead to. When I'm trying to advocate for difficult child with sd and other county people, you can bet that they would love it if I was found to have a diagnosis so they could discredit every effort I made. Yes, it would happen. They want it to be me and difficult child getting what they order, instead of me being part of the treatment team, that has only the county people making decisions.</p><p></p><p>The mst guy said he felt sure that the court did not know that I was already seeing a therapist. I reiterated that they should have asked. )This is the same sort of BS that the gal started up 2 years ago.) He said the best way to deal with it would be to get the same test by my own therapist. (I already know that she doesn't do it, even though she has the psychiatric PhD credentials and insurance doesn't cover it). But, that isn't the only issue- it is what this leads to if I keep going right along without raising a flag.</p><p></p><p>How many warrior moms understand that their difficult child's sd would prefer that they also be court ordered with a diagnosis instead of considered part of the treatment team? How effective do you think you would be at the next IEP meeting? This is just an example. Another- they have sections on paranoia and whether or not a person respects authority. Now, given the current situation, if I honestly answer questions about having faith in authority figures, I doubt it's going to come out too well. So, instead of dealing with difficult child issues in counseling, I'll probably be ordered into some therapy for respecting people more. I do respect the judge. I just don't trust where all this is leading. If I'm paranoid, so be it. I think I have reason to be. But there is NOTHING accompanying this to assess the immediate situation that the person is going through. IOW, the mst guy said there would be nothing but this written test. So there is no way for a therapist to determine if the person feels that way because of a situation or if the person has had issues in that area forever. I have about as much faith in it as I do in giving a difficult child a conner's test and nothing else- no interview, no history, no other test, no observation, no background on current situation.</p><p></p><p>I expressed these concerns to mst guy as well. He said that a lot of people have an issue with taking this test for the same rreasons. By experience with him from the past though is that he is a Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde.</p><p></p><p>This is so bogus- if they want to give me one of these- shouldn't they also give one to the prospective "new" guardian?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 249237, member: 3699"] Close, DDD. The mst therapist said that if my therapist would give the same test as they were going to give, that I could request judge to accept that instead and she probably would. Now, He said the courts did not ask for any specific area to be evaluation'd on me, just that I receive a psychiatric test. So, the person from the mental health dept had planned on giving the MMPI-2. I googled that and it is a standard test for criminals and inmates to find out what their problem is. Mind you, the testor/therapist only rec'd a piece of paper (court order) saying to do a psychiatric evaluation on me from Department of Juvenile Justice as being a parent of a juvenile. So, they chose the standard- which is used for people who might be criminals or have criminal thoughts that could influence the kid. But, another search indicated that it also is a standard personality type test. In both explanations, it appears that it is impossible to walk away without there being some issue. For instance, it questions about social life to see if the person has difficulties socially. (I'm giving a very brief synopsis here). I'm sure I'd show a problem there because I'm introverted to begin with and am a single parent who doesn't go out and party. But based on this test, I would have a major social difficulty socially. Never mind that I'm nearly 50 and don't care. I have no faith in it and as I told the mst guy, the point of the test is to see if I need to be in therapy, obviously. I'm already in therapy. If I submit something to show the judge that I'm already in therapy, what point would there be to take the test? How many of us would have our kid take one specific test and revolve the kid's entire treatment plan around it and cast his diagnosis in stone from it? I wouldn't. Especially when it is a test to find out what is wrong, not IF there's something wrong. But again, it isn;'t the test as much as what that will lead to. When I'm trying to advocate for difficult child with sd and other county people, you can bet that they would love it if I was found to have a diagnosis so they could discredit every effort I made. Yes, it would happen. They want it to be me and difficult child getting what they order, instead of me being part of the treatment team, that has only the county people making decisions. The mst guy said he felt sure that the court did not know that I was already seeing a therapist. I reiterated that they should have asked. )This is the same sort of BS that the gal started up 2 years ago.) He said the best way to deal with it would be to get the same test by my own therapist. (I already know that she doesn't do it, even though she has the psychiatric PhD credentials and insurance doesn't cover it). But, that isn't the only issue- it is what this leads to if I keep going right along without raising a flag. How many warrior moms understand that their difficult child's sd would prefer that they also be court ordered with a diagnosis instead of considered part of the treatment team? How effective do you think you would be at the next IEP meeting? This is just an example. Another- they have sections on paranoia and whether or not a person respects authority. Now, given the current situation, if I honestly answer questions about having faith in authority figures, I doubt it's going to come out too well. So, instead of dealing with difficult child issues in counseling, I'll probably be ordered into some therapy for respecting people more. I do respect the judge. I just don't trust where all this is leading. If I'm paranoid, so be it. I think I have reason to be. But there is NOTHING accompanying this to assess the immediate situation that the person is going through. IOW, the mst guy said there would be nothing but this written test. So there is no way for a therapist to determine if the person feels that way because of a situation or if the person has had issues in that area forever. I have about as much faith in it as I do in giving a difficult child a conner's test and nothing else- no interview, no history, no other test, no observation, no background on current situation. I expressed these concerns to mst guy as well. He said that a lot of people have an issue with taking this test for the same rreasons. By experience with him from the past though is that he is a Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde. This is so bogus- if they want to give me one of these- shouldn't they also give one to the prospective "new" guardian? [/QUOTE]
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