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<blockquote data-quote="witzend" data-source="post: 216207" data-attributes="member: 99"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">MB, Ropefree, and anyone else who thinks anyone in this family was abused by the father, I feel obligated to point out that <u>most often</u> when there isn't enough evidence to prosecute, it's because <u>there was no crime</u>. The burden of proof for a criminal case is "beyond a reasonable doubt." The burden of proof in Family Court is "a preponderance of the evidence", which translates to 51&#37; likely. This family could not even get a hearing in family court, therefore the evidence was found to be <u>"less likely than so".</u> Would you feel comfortable being labeled a pedophile by our group if a court of law found it less likely than so that you were? We shouldn't be so quick to judge someone who has not presented their side of the story to us.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong><span style="font-size: 12px">By his own admission, FTN brings to this family swearing at and berating this poor little girl (</span><span style="font-size: 12px">just as he brings those things to this board) </span><span style="font-size: 12px">who has never said she was molested or abused by anyone and loves her father, because <em>FTN</em> hates her father. This little girl <em>does</em> claim FTN abused her, and given his temper here, she's quite believable and his coming to us after all these months to suddenly claim innocence against a claim of abuse seems self-serving. By his own admission, he is domineering and breaks her things when he is upset with her. He brings guns into the home and encourages the older girls to target shoot pictures of this little girl's father and post the bullet riddled pictures on the outside of their bedroom doors for everyone to look at all day long. And worst of all, by his own admission, when this poor little girl begs them to stop fighting with her father and calling him a molester in front of her, he terrorizes her further with more yelling, berating, and breaking and/or taking her things. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Thank god this little girl (none of the others in that home, only the little girl <em>he</em> calls a difficult child) is in therapy. I hope her therapist will find a way to protect her from all of the anger and violence that this very angry young man brings into their home. </span><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 12px">I don't buy for one minute that anyone in this family was ever abusive other than FTN, and that he chose to involve himself in <em>this family</em> for it's vulnerability because he knew he could walk right into the "boss" role. I pray that this little girl will one day feel good about herself. It's not going to happen unless this man gets help or gets out.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 12px">And I'm most certainly entitled to my very well educated opinion on this one, just as much as the parent of an ADHD child is entitled to their opinion that teachers, shouldn't tie them to chairs and a BiPolar (BP) difficult child's mom knows that the teacher shouldn't scream at a BiPolar (BP) child in front of the rest of the class.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 12px">Finally, the day that we all feel comfortable with a bitter ex making an accusation of abuse against us during a custody fight being total grounds to call us guilty of abuse in light of there being no other evidence, is a day we all need to take a really good look at ourselves. One day <em>you</em> could be in this little girl's bio-dad's position. When the police walk away and say "there's no evidence to support this" are you comfortable having someone walk into your child's life and call you "pedophile mom" for the rest of their childhood?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="witzend, post: 216207, member: 99"] [B][SIZE=4]MB, Ropefree, and anyone else who thinks anyone in this family was abused by the father, I feel obligated to point out that [U]most often[/U] when there isn't enough evidence to prosecute, it's because [U]there was no crime[/U]. The burden of proof for a criminal case is "beyond a reasonable doubt." The burden of proof in Family Court is "a preponderance of the evidence", which translates to 51% likely. This family could not even get a hearing in family court, therefore the evidence was found to be [U]"less likely than so".[/U] Would you feel comfortable being labeled a pedophile by our group if a court of law found it less likely than so that you were? We shouldn't be so quick to judge someone who has not presented their side of the story to us. [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3]By his own admission, FTN brings to this family swearing at and berating this poor little girl ([/SIZE][SIZE=3]just as he brings those things to this board) [/SIZE][SIZE=3]who has never said she was molested or abused by anyone and loves her father, because [I]FTN[/I] hates her father. This little girl [I]does[/I] claim FTN abused her, and given his temper here, she's quite believable and his coming to us after all these months to suddenly claim innocence against a claim of abuse seems self-serving. By his own admission, he is domineering and breaks her things when he is upset with her. He brings guns into the home and encourages the older girls to target shoot pictures of this little girl's father and post the bullet riddled pictures on the outside of their bedroom doors for everyone to look at all day long. And worst of all, by his own admission, when this poor little girl begs them to stop fighting with her father and calling him a molester in front of her, he terrorizes her further with more yelling, berating, and breaking and/or taking her things. Thank god this little girl (none of the others in that home, only the little girl [I]he[/I] calls a difficult child) is in therapy. I hope her therapist will find a way to protect her from all of the anger and violence that this very angry young man brings into their home. [/SIZE][SIZE=4][SIZE=3]I don't buy for one minute that anyone in this family was ever abusive other than FTN, and that he chose to involve himself in [I]this family[/I] for it's vulnerability because he knew he could walk right into the "boss" role. I pray that this little girl will one day feel good about herself. It's not going to happen unless this man gets help or gets out. And I'm most certainly entitled to my very well educated opinion on this one, just as much as the parent of an ADHD child is entitled to their opinion that teachers, shouldn't tie them to chairs and a BiPolar (BP) difficult child's mom knows that the teacher shouldn't scream at a BiPolar (BP) child in front of the rest of the class. Finally, the day that we all feel comfortable with a bitter ex making an accusation of abuse against us during a custody fight being total grounds to call us guilty of abuse in light of there being no other evidence, is a day we all need to take a really good look at ourselves. One day [I]you[/I] could be in this little girl's bio-dad's position. When the police walk away and say "there's no evidence to support this" are you comfortable having someone walk into your child's life and call you "pedophile mom" for the rest of their childhood? [/SIZE][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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