I know we've discussed this topic before yet I feel the need to bring it up again. This past holiday season was mostly successful with kt & wm because of our level of isolation. husband & I have given up trying to take either kt or wm on family visits that last anymore than a few hours. That doesn't leave much here in our area as my one sister in law has moved out of state. My other sister in law has little to nothing to do with us because of "the tweedles influence on her children's behaviors"; mostly she is afraid of my children. After years of trying otherwise, I've learned to have very quiet holidays. I've learned to create our own quiet traditions yet I miss out on the family & friends that I once enjoyed so much. I miss out on the ritual & traditions that I grew up with & that continue on with-o us (as they should). Mostly, I miss out on sharing those very traditions with my children. The annual celebrations that are so ingrained in my life. The sharing & caring of family. I had so hoped that kt & wm could learn to be a part of those celebrations of family; those very expressions of love. So while we had a very positive experience with kt & wm, for me it was very lonely...very isolated. If I could do it again....ah, but I can't.