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<blockquote data-quote="Signorina" data-source="post: 552397"><p>Not to beat a dead horse, but the "science vs deity based programs" piqued my interest.</p><p> </p><p>I struggle with Nat' l Healthcare models. And while I agree 110% that we need some sort of something to cover everyone, I also like the freedoms that comes with good insurance (a blessing I don't take for granted and pay dearly for) and the ability to choose ones own care,(so long as you can pay for it) but that's all I will say about that.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, my firm belief is that anything that works is great. Different things work for different people. What works for a person in one part of their life may not work as they grow & mature (or simply age) and transitioning to another type of treatment can help. I am a belt and suspenders type of girl and i would exhaust every resource and treatment possibility if need be.</p><p></p><p>I feel fortunate that where I live, one doesn't need to make a choice between science and MN style/AA programs. It's not a fork in the road. And the popularity of 12 step programs usually mean there is a style of meeting for every need & comfort level. Hospital led meetings directed by medical staff to crunchy meetings, LGBT meetings, teen meetings, vegan meetings, etc. </p><p></p><p>The posts piqued my interest. I read about the pill based treatment. That medication is the 146th most rx'd drug in the US (with- a bullet) so it's certainly a widely accepted and widely used method. And not just on the coasts. From what I read- especially an interview with the Harvard doctor who was its biggest proponent originally and directed a major study- there is controversy over the idea of simply substituting an illicit illegal drug for a legal rx maintenance (and still addictive) medication. In what I read- and I am no means an expert- the most success has come from using the detox, "rx medication" and tapering off while introducing reliance upon a 12 step (or therapy based) program. So ideally the best of both worlds. Ethically, I am not sure I am comfortable w the idea of just substituting a lifelong CVS or Walgreens bag for a ziplock! (there is a lot if abuse & misuse & hi street value for the rx.) But if that was the only thing that worked for my kid or me- sure. I won't write anymore about the pill because I fear the return if yesterday's poster who frankly has made this board a sharp, hard, pointy corner of the web for me. But I will be happy to share the links by pm once I get to work.</p><p></p><p>As far as 12 step programs, they work for a great many people. I have no doubt in my mind. Again, everyone's needs are different and they don't work for everyone. What works today may not work tomorrow. And all that. But I have 3 very close friends who have long term (28 years, 24 years, 12 years) chemical sobriety thanks to AA. My sister in law attended her first GA meeting 16 years ago and now leads GA meetings. I've had a first row seat to the incredibly positive changes that 12 step recovery has brought to all of their lives and I don't doubt and could never dismiss the validity and success of this form of treatment. I think the ppl at AA would be the first to tell you that it works in conjunction with other forms of treatment and while it can be the primary or only form, it can also be a supplemental/reinforcement resource. </p><p></p><p>Whatever works for just 1 person is wonderful in my opinion. There is no moral or intellectual or medical superiority in any form of successful treatment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Signorina, post: 552397"] Not to beat a dead horse, but the "science vs deity based programs" piqued my interest. I struggle with Nat' l Healthcare models. And while I agree 110% that we need some sort of something to cover everyone, I also like the freedoms that comes with good insurance (a blessing I don't take for granted and pay dearly for) and the ability to choose ones own care,(so long as you can pay for it) but that's all I will say about that. Anyhow, my firm belief is that anything that works is great. Different things work for different people. What works for a person in one part of their life may not work as they grow & mature (or simply age) and transitioning to another type of treatment can help. I am a belt and suspenders type of girl and i would exhaust every resource and treatment possibility if need be. I feel fortunate that where I live, one doesn't need to make a choice between science and MN style/AA programs. It's not a fork in the road. And the popularity of 12 step programs usually mean there is a style of meeting for every need & comfort level. Hospital led meetings directed by medical staff to crunchy meetings, LGBT meetings, teen meetings, vegan meetings, etc. The posts piqued my interest. I read about the pill based treatment. That medication is the 146th most rx'd drug in the US (with- a bullet) so it's certainly a widely accepted and widely used method. And not just on the coasts. From what I read- especially an interview with the Harvard doctor who was its biggest proponent originally and directed a major study- there is controversy over the idea of simply substituting an illicit illegal drug for a legal rx maintenance (and still addictive) medication. In what I read- and I am no means an expert- the most success has come from using the detox, "rx medication" and tapering off while introducing reliance upon a 12 step (or therapy based) program. So ideally the best of both worlds. Ethically, I am not sure I am comfortable w the idea of just substituting a lifelong CVS or Walgreens bag for a ziplock! (there is a lot if abuse & misuse & hi street value for the rx.) But if that was the only thing that worked for my kid or me- sure. I won't write anymore about the pill because I fear the return if yesterday's poster who frankly has made this board a sharp, hard, pointy corner of the web for me. But I will be happy to share the links by pm once I get to work. As far as 12 step programs, they work for a great many people. I have no doubt in my mind. Again, everyone's needs are different and they don't work for everyone. What works today may not work tomorrow. And all that. But I have 3 very close friends who have long term (28 years, 24 years, 12 years) chemical sobriety thanks to AA. My sister in law attended her first GA meeting 16 years ago and now leads GA meetings. I've had a first row seat to the incredibly positive changes that 12 step recovery has brought to all of their lives and I don't doubt and could never dismiss the validity and success of this form of treatment. I think the ppl at AA would be the first to tell you that it works in conjunction with other forms of treatment and while it can be the primary or only form, it can also be a supplemental/reinforcement resource. Whatever works for just 1 person is wonderful in my opinion. There is no moral or intellectual or medical superiority in any form of successful treatment. [/QUOTE]
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