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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 552707" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>I think we all have our own definitions. I like the AA definition, which does not say you are addicted physically. </p><p></p><p>"If alcohol is causing you problems in your life you are an alcoholic."</p><p></p><p>Whether it means addiction physically or that for whatever reason one keeps drinking and drinking even when he almost dies or loses his job and family or ends up in jail etc...that is enough for me to think the person needs all out treatment and to stop drinking. Not all, what I define as alcoholics, drink every day of their lives....some do weekend binges...some are functional alcoholics and can look ok while in public then they pass out at home. The same goes for any compulsive behavior, which I refer to as an addiction...pot, other drugs, gambling, the internet, anything. If a behavior of yours is ruining your life and you can't stop doing it, in my opinion you are addicted and need help. HOWEVER, while gambling is horrible, you don't get physical withdrawals from it. You do from alcohol if you are in the later stages of addiction. Alcohol can also kill you. I've known several people who died from a failing liver due to alcohol abuse.</p><p></p><p>Whatever one calls it, in my opinion it's splitting hairs. If something is hurting the person, and the person keeps doing it and can't stop on his own, he/she needs treatment. In alcohol's case you may die young and sick if you drink too much.</p><p></p><p>That's really all I have to say about it. I do think there are various ways to quit and that sometimes you need medical help if you are having withdrawals. There is no one universal method that helps all people from self-harm. It is an individual journey. Whatever works, do it! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 552707, member: 1550"] I think we all have our own definitions. I like the AA definition, which does not say you are addicted physically. "If alcohol is causing you problems in your life you are an alcoholic." Whether it means addiction physically or that for whatever reason one keeps drinking and drinking even when he almost dies or loses his job and family or ends up in jail etc...that is enough for me to think the person needs all out treatment and to stop drinking. Not all, what I define as alcoholics, drink every day of their lives....some do weekend binges...some are functional alcoholics and can look ok while in public then they pass out at home. The same goes for any compulsive behavior, which I refer to as an addiction...pot, other drugs, gambling, the internet, anything. If a behavior of yours is ruining your life and you can't stop doing it, in my opinion you are addicted and need help. HOWEVER, while gambling is horrible, you don't get physical withdrawals from it. You do from alcohol if you are in the later stages of addiction. Alcohol can also kill you. I've known several people who died from a failing liver due to alcohol abuse. Whatever one calls it, in my opinion it's splitting hairs. If something is hurting the person, and the person keeps doing it and can't stop on his own, he/she needs treatment. In alcohol's case you may die young and sick if you drink too much. That's really all I have to say about it. I do think there are various ways to quit and that sometimes you need medical help if you are having withdrawals. There is no one universal method that helps all people from self-harm. It is an individual journey. Whatever works, do it! :) [/QUOTE]
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