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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 442197" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>Oh, they will eventually Susie, trust me. </p><p></p><p>If M is not supposed to be living there, those neighbors will turn him in without hesitating. Because rent is determined by the number of people per household as well as income. Neighbors tend to get majorly ticked when someone tries to pull a fast one like that when they're having to tow the line. I've seen so many people evicted due to this alone. Heck, katie herself was evicted due to sneaking him in last time around. She made it for several months.....like 8 or so before neighbors figured it out or one of them let it slip........or one of the neighbors I had watching her spotted him and tipped off the manager whom I had a like/hate relationship with at the time. I knew the manager was working double books, one for herself (which included bogus charges to tenants for stuff like walking on the grass) and one for her bosses. That and I knew my rights as a tenant (having been one so darn many years) forced the old manager to treat me with respect would made her hate me, but she did like the fact that I didn't turn her into her bosses. Which I didn't because it was perfect to hold over her head and make her tow the line. lol It was a friend of mine (who had also lived there for years) that finally turned the manager in for double books......she used to help in the office and had photocopies of those double books.....she mailed them to the owners of the complex and to HUD when she finally moved out into her own place. lol </p><p></p><p>Since I know if she's lying, neighbors will eventually take care of it.....I can not worry over that issue and let it resolve itself. </p><p></p><p>I'm keeping my distance, which makes it harder for them to lay any blame for anything at my feet. I'm just being who I am......the poor nana who does the best with what she's got, which isn't much.</p><p></p><p>This is probably the first time ever that they may face natural consequences for their actions. There is no one to rescue them. Biomom couldn't if she wanted to. husband and I flat out refuse to, as do her sibs. I do feel for the grandkids. It's not fair they should have to do without because their parents are lazy idiots and major difficult children. But you know what? If it's bad enough, cps will remove them. If it's not, you can learn some pretty valuable lessons from living through that sort of thing. Kayla sees her extended family paying their bills, working, and benefiting from that. She can see the pay off of being responsible as opposed to being completely irresponsible. She has a standard to measure her parents up to, and they're failing miserably. Even husband and I on our very low income, Kayla knows papa is out of work and we have very little money, manage to pay our bills and eat. Yet her parents with their guaranteed income each month, plus help from welfare can't manage to keep food on the table and bills paid ect. Now that she can<strong> see </strong>the difference........her parents excuses are no longer going to wash with her. </p><p></p><p>Nichole's bff comes from one of the largest major difficult child families in the county. Seriously difficult child. The girl was born with serious birth defects due to her mother's addictions alone. Seriously poor.......very much katie and M type thinking. But she hung out with Nichole a LOT, which meant she was here a LOT. Now she knows husband and I have never had much money even when he was working. But he worked, we paid bills ect. It rubbed off. It impressed her so much the girl will literally work herself to death in order NOT to take public assistance of any sort. She never asks for a handout and is sincerely grateful for anything someone is kind enough to give her. She preggers again, seriously high risk (this is the same girl who lost her baby due to prematurity about 4 yrs ago) but she goes to work everyday unless she is in hospital. She is so the opposite of every member of her family it's not funny. They don't "get" her at all. But I'm so proud of her I could pop my buttons, and she knows it. And we try to help her when we can. </p><p></p><p>This is what I hope also happens for kayla......because honestly it's really the only hope she has of not growing up to be exactly like her parents. Alex.....well honestly with the intelligence issue and the global delays......he's sort of off in his own world and their trying hard to make Evan the same way. But I can see his intelligence just waiting to blossom.....so maybe he'll learn too, who knows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 442197, member: 84"] Oh, they will eventually Susie, trust me. If M is not supposed to be living there, those neighbors will turn him in without hesitating. Because rent is determined by the number of people per household as well as income. Neighbors tend to get majorly ticked when someone tries to pull a fast one like that when they're having to tow the line. I've seen so many people evicted due to this alone. Heck, katie herself was evicted due to sneaking him in last time around. She made it for several months.....like 8 or so before neighbors figured it out or one of them let it slip........or one of the neighbors I had watching her spotted him and tipped off the manager whom I had a like/hate relationship with at the time. I knew the manager was working double books, one for herself (which included bogus charges to tenants for stuff like walking on the grass) and one for her bosses. That and I knew my rights as a tenant (having been one so darn many years) forced the old manager to treat me with respect would made her hate me, but she did like the fact that I didn't turn her into her bosses. Which I didn't because it was perfect to hold over her head and make her tow the line. lol It was a friend of mine (who had also lived there for years) that finally turned the manager in for double books......she used to help in the office and had photocopies of those double books.....she mailed them to the owners of the complex and to HUD when she finally moved out into her own place. lol Since I know if she's lying, neighbors will eventually take care of it.....I can not worry over that issue and let it resolve itself. I'm keeping my distance, which makes it harder for them to lay any blame for anything at my feet. I'm just being who I am......the poor nana who does the best with what she's got, which isn't much. This is probably the first time ever that they may face natural consequences for their actions. There is no one to rescue them. Biomom couldn't if she wanted to. husband and I flat out refuse to, as do her sibs. I do feel for the grandkids. It's not fair they should have to do without because their parents are lazy idiots and major difficult children. But you know what? If it's bad enough, cps will remove them. If it's not, you can learn some pretty valuable lessons from living through that sort of thing. Kayla sees her extended family paying their bills, working, and benefiting from that. She can see the pay off of being responsible as opposed to being completely irresponsible. She has a standard to measure her parents up to, and they're failing miserably. Even husband and I on our very low income, Kayla knows papa is out of work and we have very little money, manage to pay our bills and eat. Yet her parents with their guaranteed income each month, plus help from welfare can't manage to keep food on the table and bills paid ect. Now that she can[B] see [/B]the difference........her parents excuses are no longer going to wash with her. Nichole's bff comes from one of the largest major difficult child families in the county. Seriously difficult child. The girl was born with serious birth defects due to her mother's addictions alone. Seriously poor.......very much katie and M type thinking. But she hung out with Nichole a LOT, which meant she was here a LOT. Now she knows husband and I have never had much money even when he was working. But he worked, we paid bills ect. It rubbed off. It impressed her so much the girl will literally work herself to death in order NOT to take public assistance of any sort. She never asks for a handout and is sincerely grateful for anything someone is kind enough to give her. She preggers again, seriously high risk (this is the same girl who lost her baby due to prematurity about 4 yrs ago) but she goes to work everyday unless she is in hospital. She is so the opposite of every member of her family it's not funny. They don't "get" her at all. But I'm so proud of her I could pop my buttons, and she knows it. And we try to help her when we can. This is what I hope also happens for kayla......because honestly it's really the only hope she has of not growing up to be exactly like her parents. Alex.....well honestly with the intelligence issue and the global delays......he's sort of off in his own world and their trying hard to make Evan the same way. But I can see his intelligence just waiting to blossom.....so maybe he'll learn too, who knows. [/QUOTE]
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