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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 176296" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Based on our experiences- I second Sara and Star on this. I think many times the police look at it like it is just a frustrated parent calling and if the parent accepts their refusal to do anything, then they figure it must not be too bad of a situation. If you make enough noise, they realize that they need to come up with another answer.</p><p></p><p>I think you do need to get him to a psychiatric hospital, and there are several reasons why that I think it will be in everyone's (including his) best interest in the short term and long term.</p><p></p><p>When my son exhibited a manic reaction, and it does appear to be medication induced, and he got in a lot of trouble legally for his actions during that, he came home and the AD was stopped but none of the "brain healing" time was explained to me or the courts. difficult child was acting angry and very unsettled. Because of the courts/GAL demanding that I do something and my bro filing for custody, etc., I kept going to psychiatrist saying how difficult child was acting and that something had to be done. Instead of psychiatrist explaining everything to me and writing a letter to the courts explaining it (had I known then what I know now, I would have demanded this), psychiatrist just started difficult child on mood stabilizerrs and gave a diagnosis of BiPolar (BP). Now, it might be an accurate diagnosis, but in my heart of hearts, I cannot be sure. And I worry a great deal about what is happening to difficult child mentally and physically from taking all these medications if this is the wrong diagnosis.</p><p></p><p>At the time, I felt like you do now- "somebody just do something to stop it". That is understandable and I'll be the first to say that something does need to be done. But it will probably be more beneficial to push for the mental health route (regardless of the diagnosis) than the Department of Juvenile Justice. I am pretty sure the Department of Juvenile Justice will stay involved either way at this point, but mental health treatment won't if you don't push for it now. Plus, an emergency room dr has to evaluation them at arrival- they can't put it off for a week until a scheduled appointment or court appearance. </p><p></p><p>As others have said, just because difficult child calms down doesn't mean that you can't get the point across to the ER psychiatrist. There are ways. First, if difficult child doesn't become agressive again, he might surprise you and admit to them that he needs help. (Mine did this last time and I was shocked). Other things- tell them exactly what he has said- even if you are sure he didn't mean it- tell them anything that even suggests a threat of bodily harm to self or you or anyone else. (My difficult child had said "if a cop came in even with a gun to take him somewhere, he'd kill him". - Now of course I knew my 13yo would never really do that and even if he tried, there was no real threat to anyone based on that because difficult child didn't even have any kind of weapon. But- I told ER psychiatrist that difficult child threatened to kill a cop. I toned it down a lot once he was admitted and no one else ever even heard about it.) The point is, you have to do what you have to do to get the system to work for you instead of against you. I knew my difficult child needed to be in a psychiatric hospital- something had to be done. The insurance co and the laws dictate the processes. My difficult child was on an ankle bracelet at the time- it didn't matter- I got him in a car, drove him to ER. Once in ER, they cannot let him leave until he is evaluation'd (make sure you tell them a registration desk you are there because you think he is a potential danger to self or others. They can put a policeman at the door to guard it. The nurse or psychiatrist called the PO after we were there to tell her where difficult child was. The fact that he was on house arrest never was questioned- it was considered emergency medical treatment.</p><p></p><p>Good luck!!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 176296, member: 3699"] Based on our experiences- I second Sara and Star on this. I think many times the police look at it like it is just a frustrated parent calling and if the parent accepts their refusal to do anything, then they figure it must not be too bad of a situation. If you make enough noise, they realize that they need to come up with another answer. I think you do need to get him to a psychiatric hospital, and there are several reasons why that I think it will be in everyone's (including his) best interest in the short term and long term. When my son exhibited a manic reaction, and it does appear to be medication induced, and he got in a lot of trouble legally for his actions during that, he came home and the AD was stopped but none of the "brain healing" time was explained to me or the courts. difficult child was acting angry and very unsettled. Because of the courts/GAL demanding that I do something and my bro filing for custody, etc., I kept going to psychiatrist saying how difficult child was acting and that something had to be done. Instead of psychiatrist explaining everything to me and writing a letter to the courts explaining it (had I known then what I know now, I would have demanded this), psychiatrist just started difficult child on mood stabilizerrs and gave a diagnosis of BiPolar (BP). Now, it might be an accurate diagnosis, but in my heart of hearts, I cannot be sure. And I worry a great deal about what is happening to difficult child mentally and physically from taking all these medications if this is the wrong diagnosis. At the time, I felt like you do now- "somebody just do something to stop it". That is understandable and I'll be the first to say that something does need to be done. But it will probably be more beneficial to push for the mental health route (regardless of the diagnosis) than the Department of Juvenile Justice. I am pretty sure the Department of Juvenile Justice will stay involved either way at this point, but mental health treatment won't if you don't push for it now. Plus, an emergency room dr has to evaluation them at arrival- they can't put it off for a week until a scheduled appointment or court appearance. As others have said, just because difficult child calms down doesn't mean that you can't get the point across to the ER psychiatrist. There are ways. First, if difficult child doesn't become agressive again, he might surprise you and admit to them that he needs help. (Mine did this last time and I was shocked). Other things- tell them exactly what he has said- even if you are sure he didn't mean it- tell them anything that even suggests a threat of bodily harm to self or you or anyone else. (My difficult child had said "if a cop came in even with a gun to take him somewhere, he'd kill him". - Now of course I knew my 13yo would never really do that and even if he tried, there was no real threat to anyone based on that because difficult child didn't even have any kind of weapon. But- I told ER psychiatrist that difficult child threatened to kill a cop. I toned it down a lot once he was admitted and no one else ever even heard about it.) The point is, you have to do what you have to do to get the system to work for you instead of against you. I knew my difficult child needed to be in a psychiatric hospital- something had to be done. The insurance co and the laws dictate the processes. My difficult child was on an ankle bracelet at the time- it didn't matter- I got him in a car, drove him to ER. Once in ER, they cannot let him leave until he is evaluation'd (make sure you tell them a registration desk you are there because you think he is a potential danger to self or others. They can put a policeman at the door to guard it. The nurse or psychiatrist called the PO after we were there to tell her where difficult child was. The fact that he was on house arrest never was questioned- it was considered emergency medical treatment. Good luck!!!! [/QUOTE]
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