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<blockquote data-quote="HereWeGoAgain" data-source="post: 90147" data-attributes="member: 3485"><p>If the poem or note or whatever was written some time ago, how does that affect whether McWeedy could be involuntarily admitted? With our dtr we had to have a witness that the threat was imminent, i.e. within the past 72 hours, IIRC. Otherwise they would not have admitted her for psychiatric evaluation. (She had told her friend that she was going to kill herself, we didn't truly believe it because of a history of threatening suicide and cutting in order to manipulate, but nevertheless had her admitted, mostly to get her in detox and off the street.)</p><p></p><p>I think a lot of us are reacting to the sense of urgency conveyed by the thread title. I understand completely how the shock of those words on paper would spark an "emergency!" type of post... and indeed, in this kind of case, it IS urgent -- better safe than sorry. on the other hand if the note is old and McW and wife won't consent, what are you gonna do? </p><p></p><p>I think the advice given by all hands here is sound, but I'm not sure that a big blowup with all family members obliged to choose up sides is going to accomplish anything positive at this point. Would wife at least consent to talking to the docs about the seriousness (this may have been addressed already, I don't remember) of this writing of his? She believes him that he didn't really mean it, and it is very possible he didn't, but there is a chance he did at the time and is lying or honestly doesn't recall how dark his thoughts were. I'm not a psychologist so take that with as much salt as you'd like.</p><p></p><p>In any case, I feel for you and am keeping your family in my prayers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>(PS -- I did notice that you responded on a number of threads back when you first started posting; it was right after I started posting here and it got my attention that another man had showed up.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HereWeGoAgain, post: 90147, member: 3485"] If the poem or note or whatever was written some time ago, how does that affect whether McWeedy could be involuntarily admitted? With our dtr we had to have a witness that the threat was imminent, i.e. within the past 72 hours, IIRC. Otherwise they would not have admitted her for psychiatric evaluation. (She had told her friend that she was going to kill herself, we didn't truly believe it because of a history of threatening suicide and cutting in order to manipulate, but nevertheless had her admitted, mostly to get her in detox and off the street.) I think a lot of us are reacting to the sense of urgency conveyed by the thread title. I understand completely how the shock of those words on paper would spark an "emergency!" type of post... and indeed, in this kind of case, it IS urgent -- better safe than sorry. on the other hand if the note is old and McW and wife won't consent, what are you gonna do? I think the advice given by all hands here is sound, but I'm not sure that a big blowup with all family members obliged to choose up sides is going to accomplish anything positive at this point. Would wife at least consent to talking to the docs about the seriousness (this may have been addressed already, I don't remember) of this writing of his? She believes him that he didn't really mean it, and it is very possible he didn't, but there is a chance he did at the time and is lying or honestly doesn't recall how dark his thoughts were. I'm not a psychologist so take that with as much salt as you'd like. In any case, I feel for you and am keeping your family in my prayers. (PS -- I did notice that you responded on a number of threads back when you first started posting; it was right after I started posting here and it got my attention that another man had showed up.) [/QUOTE]
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