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<blockquote data-quote="Kathy813" data-source="post: 605994" data-attributes="member: 1967"><p>Yes, heroin is making a big comeback. When our difficult child overdosed on it and nearly died, the police told us that it is cheap and available everywhere even in our upscale community.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that an intensive outpatient program will work at this point. We sent our difficult child to a three month residential treatment center in another state followed up by a halfway house. She says she has been sober for 9 months. Whether that is true or not I don't know but she is holding down a full time job and seems to be doing well right now.</p><p></p><p>I think that you need to get your difficult child away from his drug sources and into heavy duty treatment if there is any chance at all to get him off drugs. I would look for a place that treats substance abuse as part of a dual diagnosis program. Your son's mental health issues and drug use are intertwined and you can't treat one without the other.</p><p></p><p>I don't necessarily agree with the others that treatment won't work if your son doesn't want it. Sometimes it takes getting them somewhere long enough for the drugs to get out of their system so that they start thinking clearly. No treatment will work until they are clean and sober so that the mental health issues can be addressed as well as the addiction issues. </p><p></p><p>I often think about Carol O'Conner's statement to "get between your child and drugs anyway you can." He did a series of commercials because he lost his son to drugs and said that all along, people kept saying that he couldn't do anything and that his son had to ask for help. If I didn't listen to those people he said, maybe his son would be alive. The interventionist that we used said only 15% of drug addicts seek help for themselves. They don't have the mental clarity that would take.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, my husband and I are now walking the fine line of helping without enabling. My therapist helps me draw the line. She said that we have provided our difficult child the best treatment possible and whether she stays sober or not is now on her. </p><p></p><p>As far as the cruise . . . where would difficult child stay while you were gone? Like Nancy, I would not feel comfortable going unless I knew he was in a secure treatment center. I also agree with Nancy that spending money on college tuition at this point in your son's life would be money down the drain. He needs to get clean and sober for a period of time before I would even consider it.</p><p></p><p>I understand what you are going through. I never imagined that my daughter would shoot heroin into her veins. Even now, the very thought makes me sick to my stomach.</p><p></p><p>~Kathy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kathy813, post: 605994, member: 1967"] Yes, heroin is making a big comeback. When our difficult child overdosed on it and nearly died, the police told us that it is cheap and available everywhere even in our upscale community. I don't think that an intensive outpatient program will work at this point. We sent our difficult child to a three month residential treatment center in another state followed up by a halfway house. She says she has been sober for 9 months. Whether that is true or not I don't know but she is holding down a full time job and seems to be doing well right now. I think that you need to get your difficult child away from his drug sources and into heavy duty treatment if there is any chance at all to get him off drugs. I would look for a place that treats substance abuse as part of a dual diagnosis program. Your son's mental health issues and drug use are intertwined and you can't treat one without the other. I don't necessarily agree with the others that treatment won't work if your son doesn't want it. Sometimes it takes getting them somewhere long enough for the drugs to get out of their system so that they start thinking clearly. No treatment will work until they are clean and sober so that the mental health issues can be addressed as well as the addiction issues. I often think about Carol O'Conner's statement to "get between your child and drugs anyway you can." He did a series of commercials because he lost his son to drugs and said that all along, people kept saying that he couldn't do anything and that his son had to ask for help. If I didn't listen to those people he said, maybe his son would be alive. The interventionist that we used said only 15% of drug addicts seek help for themselves. They don't have the mental clarity that would take. Having said that, my husband and I are now walking the fine line of helping without enabling. My therapist helps me draw the line. She said that we have provided our difficult child the best treatment possible and whether she stays sober or not is now on her. As far as the cruise . . . where would difficult child stay while you were gone? Like Nancy, I would not feel comfortable going unless I knew he was in a secure treatment center. I also agree with Nancy that spending money on college tuition at this point in your son's life would be money down the drain. He needs to get clean and sober for a period of time before I would even consider it. I understand what you are going through. I never imagined that my daughter would shoot heroin into her veins. Even now, the very thought makes me sick to my stomach. ~Kathy [/QUOTE]
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