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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 287825" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Thanks, Sus. You explained it really way. Kids on the spectrum look manipulative to regular tdocs and psychiatrists because, for the most part, they don't know squat about the spectrum (even if they say they do). And Spectrum kids can look mentally ill, manipulative, etc. when it's really that they are being treated without regard to their many disabilities that make functioning very difficult.</p><p></p><p>If there is an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) for children on the spectrum, I would go there. You are seeing repetitive regression (a trait of autism) in my opinion because he is getting behavioral therapy for "typical" kids rather than help coping with a serious disability the impacts every faction of his life. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids don't do well with change. If he has spent umpteen weeks in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) and gotten used to it then has to come home that's a big change. If he is at Chuckee Cheese then has to go home that is also a change. It can cause a big meltdown unless the kids are taught HOW to transition. The sensory issues should be addressed--agree with Susie. Kids on the spectrum who are ten can not be expected to act ten--period. The disability itself is a developmental delay and the child will be mentally years younger. I also wonder if he isn't brighter than he tested. Regular tests short-changes Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kids a lot. A school "regular" psychologist tested my son's IQ at 75. He seemed brighter. When a neuropsychologist tested him at age 11, and he was pulling A's and B's in school, his IQ shot up to 107. I think it's even higher than that. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids test poorly partly because they sometimes need to understand the test differently, even as they often have unique learning styles. They are different and special. And, if not given Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) interventions, their outcome can be a lot worse than it could have been.</p><p></p><p>I would look for people who are very specific to understanding Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified--not the rest of the alphabet soup that he was given (that are all traits of autism). If it were my kid (and I have one like that) I would focus on professionals who will help him live in the real world in spite of his different wiring. You can't change a cat into a dog. You can't make a child on the spectrum think like somebody who is not, nor change him by the usual methods. You CAN help him cope. Right now he sounds just immensely frustrated and I take issue with the pdcos and tdocs who do NOT specialize in Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) who say he is very manipulative. Of course, it is your call, but I feel they are not right with this kid. Hey, my son was misdiagnosed with bipolar. Mental health experts are not that sharp about Aspergrs/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified/autism. Why? Because the behavior of kids on the spectrum is triggered by their disablity, NOT because of mental health issues (although problems can develop if nobody helps teach the child how to cope with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)). </p><p>I wish you luck and hope you find an answer that is right for your family and your child.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 287825, member: 1550"] Thanks, Sus. You explained it really way. Kids on the spectrum look manipulative to regular tdocs and psychiatrists because, for the most part, they don't know squat about the spectrum (even if they say they do). And Spectrum kids can look mentally ill, manipulative, etc. when it's really that they are being treated without regard to their many disabilities that make functioning very difficult. If there is an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) for children on the spectrum, I would go there. You are seeing repetitive regression (a trait of autism) in my opinion because he is getting behavioral therapy for "typical" kids rather than help coping with a serious disability the impacts every faction of his life. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids don't do well with change. If he has spent umpteen weeks in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) and gotten used to it then has to come home that's a big change. If he is at Chuckee Cheese then has to go home that is also a change. It can cause a big meltdown unless the kids are taught HOW to transition. The sensory issues should be addressed--agree with Susie. Kids on the spectrum who are ten can not be expected to act ten--period. The disability itself is a developmental delay and the child will be mentally years younger. I also wonder if he isn't brighter than he tested. Regular tests short-changes Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kids a lot. A school "regular" psychologist tested my son's IQ at 75. He seemed brighter. When a neuropsychologist tested him at age 11, and he was pulling A's and B's in school, his IQ shot up to 107. I think it's even higher than that. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids test poorly partly because they sometimes need to understand the test differently, even as they often have unique learning styles. They are different and special. And, if not given Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) interventions, their outcome can be a lot worse than it could have been. I would look for people who are very specific to understanding Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified--not the rest of the alphabet soup that he was given (that are all traits of autism). If it were my kid (and I have one like that) I would focus on professionals who will help him live in the real world in spite of his different wiring. You can't change a cat into a dog. You can't make a child on the spectrum think like somebody who is not, nor change him by the usual methods. You CAN help him cope. Right now he sounds just immensely frustrated and I take issue with the pdcos and tdocs who do NOT specialize in Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) who say he is very manipulative. Of course, it is your call, but I feel they are not right with this kid. Hey, my son was misdiagnosed with bipolar. Mental health experts are not that sharp about Aspergrs/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified/autism. Why? Because the behavior of kids on the spectrum is triggered by their disablity, NOT because of mental health issues (although problems can develop if nobody helps teach the child how to cope with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)). I wish you luck and hope you find an answer that is right for your family and your child. [/QUOTE]
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