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<blockquote data-quote="Nancy" data-source="post: 380017" data-attributes="member: 59"><p>RPS there is so much that you said that I would like to comment on. It is very important to choose an inpatient program carefully. The one we chose accepts mostly insurance or self pay customers. That is a double edged sword becaue we have a very high deductible and only 10 days allowed for substance abuse treatment. They ended up paying only $3,000 and we self paid the rest. There are some court ordered patients there and their incentive for getting clean and sober and staying that way is not as serious as trhose who come on their own or through family intervention. Many of them fail and either leave on their own or are kicked out for breaking the ruoles or using. The staff is very quick to jump on them and not allow them to jeopardize everyone else's sobriety. There have been several other patients that I was worried about my difficult child becoming friedly with but all of them have left or been kicked out. The ones that arer left all want to get better and they have good family support behind them. </p><p></p><p>There were several treatment centers in our area that we did not consider for various reasons. The outpatient program she was in before inpatient was a joke, even though it is considered highly. They were no match for her and it was appaarent that education alone was not going to work. She needed to be out of her environment and have individual and group therapy every day in a very structured environment.</p><p></p><p>We did drug tests too. We told her a condition for living at home was that she submit to monthly tests, at a testing center. Little did we know that she just switched from pot to alcohol. But I think it's important that you stick to the drug testing.</p><p></p><p>We too live in an area with an excellent school system, rated excellent with distinction every year. I too was surprised at the number of students who use alcohol and drugs, many with their parents knowledge. I once drove to a kid's house in a very nice development and sat in the drive until the police came to get difficult child out of the house where all the kids were smoking pot and drinking having cut school. Just last summer I drove to a drug house in another very nice development and ordered the boy who lived there to make difficult child leave or I would call the police. These parents were divorced, the mom lives elsewhere and the dad was living with his girlfriend, leaving the son to have the run of the house with his druggie friends. The house was in foreclosure and I reported the activity to both the police and child welfare. I was not afraid to call a parent or appear on their doorstop looking for difficult child and informing them of their activity in their home or with their kids. It did not make difficult child very happy but I didn't care. I like Dr. Phil when he says parents have to do whatever they have to to save their kids lives. And Carroll O'Connor is my hero when he said "get between your kids and drugs any way you can."</p><p></p><p>You are starting out on a long and difficult road but you sound like you have your ducks in a row and are prepared to go to battle to help your son. We have a lot of similar situations and I will be anxious to see how it goes for you.</p><p></p><p>Nancy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nancy, post: 380017, member: 59"] RPS there is so much that you said that I would like to comment on. It is very important to choose an inpatient program carefully. The one we chose accepts mostly insurance or self pay customers. That is a double edged sword becaue we have a very high deductible and only 10 days allowed for substance abuse treatment. They ended up paying only $3,000 and we self paid the rest. There are some court ordered patients there and their incentive for getting clean and sober and staying that way is not as serious as trhose who come on their own or through family intervention. Many of them fail and either leave on their own or are kicked out for breaking the ruoles or using. The staff is very quick to jump on them and not allow them to jeopardize everyone else's sobriety. There have been several other patients that I was worried about my difficult child becoming friedly with but all of them have left or been kicked out. The ones that arer left all want to get better and they have good family support behind them. There were several treatment centers in our area that we did not consider for various reasons. The outpatient program she was in before inpatient was a joke, even though it is considered highly. They were no match for her and it was appaarent that education alone was not going to work. She needed to be out of her environment and have individual and group therapy every day in a very structured environment. We did drug tests too. We told her a condition for living at home was that she submit to monthly tests, at a testing center. Little did we know that she just switched from pot to alcohol. But I think it's important that you stick to the drug testing. We too live in an area with an excellent school system, rated excellent with distinction every year. I too was surprised at the number of students who use alcohol and drugs, many with their parents knowledge. I once drove to a kid's house in a very nice development and sat in the drive until the police came to get difficult child out of the house where all the kids were smoking pot and drinking having cut school. Just last summer I drove to a drug house in another very nice development and ordered the boy who lived there to make difficult child leave or I would call the police. These parents were divorced, the mom lives elsewhere and the dad was living with his girlfriend, leaving the son to have the run of the house with his druggie friends. The house was in foreclosure and I reported the activity to both the police and child welfare. I was not afraid to call a parent or appear on their doorstop looking for difficult child and informing them of their activity in their home or with their kids. It did not make difficult child very happy but I didn't care. I like Dr. Phil when he says parents have to do whatever they have to to save their kids lives. And Carroll O'Connor is my hero when he said "get between your kids and drugs any way you can." You are starting out on a long and difficult road but you sound like you have your ducks in a row and are prepared to go to battle to help your son. We have a lot of similar situations and I will be anxious to see how it goes for you. Nancy [/QUOTE]
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