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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 521693" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>Hi there....you are probably seeing a trend in the responses so far, LOL.... trust your gut. It does seem like something else is going on and isn't it amazing how people outside of the situation but who have lived the same sad story of mis-diagnosis can see you are so right??!! the types of social issues adhd kids have are usually more about impulsive mistakes etc. Sounds like your child is having true social mis-interpretions of facial expressions, intent, etc. Holding back and forth conversations (like in therapy/counseling) usually does not go well so that kind of treatment is often not so great for many of our kids. If you can find a therapist who works specifically with kids who need direct teaching about how to get along with other kids, to develop skills for understanding facial expressions, the different levels of teasing, how to be a good sport and things like that it really helps. (Took my son till age 15-now- to find someone, sigh). </p><p></p><p>The types of professionals you are seeing tend to limit their diagnosis to the area you are getting feedback on. With the touching everything issue and social communicaiton problems, You may want to try to get a private Occupational Therapist (OT) and Sp/Lang/Communication evaluation. Those two things will look at fine motor, sensory integration (whether defensive or seeking like the touch thing) and may give you insight as to things that go along with ADHD or sometimes can mask as ADHD.... the Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluation can help you identify issues affecting social communicaiton as well as auditory processing problems including language processing, which again can look like ADHD. Specifically say you want auditory processing and social communication evaluated when you request the evaluation. </p><p></p><p>While doing that, what also has worked for many of us (as stated earlier) is to set up a neuropsychologist evaluation. A neuropsychologist (and some do have typical psychs or docs who do this but as a group this kind of psychiatric is known for doing this kind of evaluation) looks at all the behaviors, will look at your Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) results and do a LOT of other testing (checklists, in person standardized tests, parent forms etc....may be hours and hours worth....very well worth your effort, in my humble opinion) and they analyze the relationship between behaviors/level of achievement/mood to how our brains work. They are much broader in helping to let you know if this is more of a developmental/neurological issue, or a mental health issue, etc. </p><p></p><p>I agree that one thing that pops out (because of the level of aggression, social issues, and upsets in social situations, not being able to communicate well with a therapist, plus the adhd-like stuff which often goes along with this) is to look at the possibility of Autism Spectrum (maybe in your case Asperger's) Disorder, or similar types of conditions which really impact a child's ability to get along in the classroom and during activities. It would not necessarily impact his academic achievements unless behavior, organization etc. interferes with his work. </p><p></p><p>It is a daunting journey to try to sort out what it can be but not checking it out is NOT an option, as your gut is telling you. Sorry you are experiencing so much resistence from those that should be listening to you the most. </p><p></p><p>In school, does he have an IEP? The types of discipline methods they are using do not teach him how to handle things better. He likely needs some direct teaching in a postive-skill building way to do better. If he is on an IEP (if not let us know and we can share info about that too) you can request a behavior analysis and a POSITIVE behavior plan. If he could do better then he would.</p><p></p><p>Some books that many of us like include: The Explosive Child and Lost in School both by Ross Greene and What your Explosive Child is trying to Tell You by Doug Riley. I have found good used copies on Amazon.com I am sure they are other places too (recently paid less than $2.50 for another copy of The Explosive Child!)</p><p></p><p>So, welcome, you are with many who understand the diagnosis journey and the day to day struggle with all of these issues. Hope you check in often and we can get to know you better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 521693, member: 12886"] Hi there....you are probably seeing a trend in the responses so far, LOL.... trust your gut. It does seem like something else is going on and isn't it amazing how people outside of the situation but who have lived the same sad story of mis-diagnosis can see you are so right??!! the types of social issues adhd kids have are usually more about impulsive mistakes etc. Sounds like your child is having true social mis-interpretions of facial expressions, intent, etc. Holding back and forth conversations (like in therapy/counseling) usually does not go well so that kind of treatment is often not so great for many of our kids. If you can find a therapist who works specifically with kids who need direct teaching about how to get along with other kids, to develop skills for understanding facial expressions, the different levels of teasing, how to be a good sport and things like that it really helps. (Took my son till age 15-now- to find someone, sigh). The types of professionals you are seeing tend to limit their diagnosis to the area you are getting feedback on. With the touching everything issue and social communicaiton problems, You may want to try to get a private Occupational Therapist (OT) and Sp/Lang/Communication evaluation. Those two things will look at fine motor, sensory integration (whether defensive or seeking like the touch thing) and may give you insight as to things that go along with ADHD or sometimes can mask as ADHD.... the Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluation can help you identify issues affecting social communicaiton as well as auditory processing problems including language processing, which again can look like ADHD. Specifically say you want auditory processing and social communication evaluated when you request the evaluation. While doing that, what also has worked for many of us (as stated earlier) is to set up a neuropsychologist evaluation. A neuropsychologist (and some do have typical psychs or docs who do this but as a group this kind of psychiatric is known for doing this kind of evaluation) looks at all the behaviors, will look at your Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) results and do a LOT of other testing (checklists, in person standardized tests, parent forms etc....may be hours and hours worth....very well worth your effort, in my humble opinion) and they analyze the relationship between behaviors/level of achievement/mood to how our brains work. They are much broader in helping to let you know if this is more of a developmental/neurological issue, or a mental health issue, etc. I agree that one thing that pops out (because of the level of aggression, social issues, and upsets in social situations, not being able to communicate well with a therapist, plus the adhd-like stuff which often goes along with this) is to look at the possibility of Autism Spectrum (maybe in your case Asperger's) Disorder, or similar types of conditions which really impact a child's ability to get along in the classroom and during activities. It would not necessarily impact his academic achievements unless behavior, organization etc. interferes with his work. It is a daunting journey to try to sort out what it can be but not checking it out is NOT an option, as your gut is telling you. Sorry you are experiencing so much resistence from those that should be listening to you the most. In school, does he have an IEP? The types of discipline methods they are using do not teach him how to handle things better. He likely needs some direct teaching in a postive-skill building way to do better. If he is on an IEP (if not let us know and we can share info about that too) you can request a behavior analysis and a POSITIVE behavior plan. If he could do better then he would. Some books that many of us like include: The Explosive Child and Lost in School both by Ross Greene and What your Explosive Child is trying to Tell You by Doug Riley. I have found good used copies on Amazon.com I am sure they are other places too (recently paid less than $2.50 for another copy of The Explosive Child!) So, welcome, you are with many who understand the diagnosis journey and the day to day struggle with all of these issues. Hope you check in often and we can get to know you better. [/QUOTE]
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