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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 498074" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>HELLO!!!! I would LOL if it was not so serious, not because of you or your situation!!!! Because to say to ignore the behaivor, really is absurd. (yes, there are some things that this can help, in a very specific way... to ignore just the behavior like if they make a noise and you fuss about it and then it increases due to the attention it gets... TOTALLY different thing and safety is never an ignorable issue)</p><p></p><p>Our home program psychologist who is stellar by the way, says the reason ignoring does not work is because the very act of ignoring is PAYING ATTENTION to a behavior. They know it is not normal to ignore such things. so unless they are in a very controlled environment where not one person would even turn their head, no baby to scream about it etc... it is impossible to really ignore a behavior completely. </p><p></p><p>Plus it flies in the face of the function of the behavior. You pick an intervention based on why the child is doing the behavior. To assume your young child is doing all of that just for attention is probably silly. Does it go on longer at times due Occupational Therapist (OT) attention??? maybe. But probably doesnt kick off due to that soley. Usually it is because of a lack of other skills/options. The child does not have the ability to inhibit impulses, or to communicate frustration and calm down appropriately, etc. </p><p></p><p>Let me tell you a secret, many of us go thru times when we dont want to be around, or even like our kids. Yes it feels shameful. My son stomps on stairs too, makes me nuts becasue we live in a multi-family town home unit. </p><p></p><p>I would suggest you shop around for a different therapist if possible becasue this one sounds out of his/her league. </p><p></p><p>Most importantly, you will soon find that ODD, in the opion of many of us really does not help much. It is nearly always just a description of a behavior and it falls under the bigger problem that has yet to be identified. A mental health issue, a pervasive developmental issue, learning issues, procesing issues, sensory issues, etc. </p><p></p><p>SOOO , if you have not yet done so, my opinion, and many here, (and what I have acutally done several times) is to get a complete, overall, developmental assessment done by a neuropsychologist or a developmental pediatrician. A neuropsychologist looks at how the brain and behavior are connected. Their evaluations take hours, sometimes days to complete and that includes many questionairres for you to fill out. In addition I would get a good private Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation and a Speech/Language Pathology evaluation. If his speech/language seems normal, still do it... they can look at social communication, and language processing too... </p><p></p><p>Occupational Therapist (OT) (occupational therapy) will look at fine motor development, integration of infantile reflexes, motor planning, and sensory integration. </p><p>DOes he have any problems with touch, etc. The stomping can come from needing deep sensory input. Does he do things too hard in general?? Big clue to get this checked out. How is his eating? is he picky, does he shove food in? does he only like certain textures or smells. Does he avoid textures or smells? is he fussy about clothes? does he like to be dirty and doesnt even notice....or does he avoid all dirt and anything touching his hands, feet etc? </p><p></p><p>How does he do with other kds? How is his language development, imaginative play (does he do fantasy play or just repetitive play or lining things up etc.)</p><p></p><p>Does he have things that he is obsessed about like trains, or balls, or cars/wheels, or certain tv characters and shows that he talks about all of the time?</p><p></p><p>Does he go from happy to sad easily? how does he do with transitions from one thing to another? Do you have an mental health issues in your family?</p><p>did he have any upsets early on (premature birth, reflux that was not able to be treated well or any other pain??? colic??) Did you get ill during his first three years for any reason that maybe interrupted his bonding ????</p><p></p><p>There is no judgement in any of this, just gives us some insight into things so we can let you know our experiences too. Hopefully it will help. Even if not, you have found a group of people who I really have found to be a huge support so I hope that is true for you too. I am sure others will come along with additional quesitons and ideas so I will stop at this.... I know it is overwhelming. </p><p></p><p>Go easy on yourself. tehre is a TON of hope.</p><p></p><p>OH one more thing, sorry... is he in preschool?? how is that going?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 498074, member: 12886"] HELLO!!!! I would LOL if it was not so serious, not because of you or your situation!!!! Because to say to ignore the behaivor, really is absurd. (yes, there are some things that this can help, in a very specific way... to ignore just the behavior like if they make a noise and you fuss about it and then it increases due to the attention it gets... TOTALLY different thing and safety is never an ignorable issue) Our home program psychologist who is stellar by the way, says the reason ignoring does not work is because the very act of ignoring is PAYING ATTENTION to a behavior. They know it is not normal to ignore such things. so unless they are in a very controlled environment where not one person would even turn their head, no baby to scream about it etc... it is impossible to really ignore a behavior completely. Plus it flies in the face of the function of the behavior. You pick an intervention based on why the child is doing the behavior. To assume your young child is doing all of that just for attention is probably silly. Does it go on longer at times due Occupational Therapist (OT) attention??? maybe. But probably doesnt kick off due to that soley. Usually it is because of a lack of other skills/options. The child does not have the ability to inhibit impulses, or to communicate frustration and calm down appropriately, etc. Let me tell you a secret, many of us go thru times when we dont want to be around, or even like our kids. Yes it feels shameful. My son stomps on stairs too, makes me nuts becasue we live in a multi-family town home unit. I would suggest you shop around for a different therapist if possible becasue this one sounds out of his/her league. Most importantly, you will soon find that ODD, in the opion of many of us really does not help much. It is nearly always just a description of a behavior and it falls under the bigger problem that has yet to be identified. A mental health issue, a pervasive developmental issue, learning issues, procesing issues, sensory issues, etc. SOOO , if you have not yet done so, my opinion, and many here, (and what I have acutally done several times) is to get a complete, overall, developmental assessment done by a neuropsychologist or a developmental pediatrician. A neuropsychologist looks at how the brain and behavior are connected. Their evaluations take hours, sometimes days to complete and that includes many questionairres for you to fill out. In addition I would get a good private Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation and a Speech/Language Pathology evaluation. If his speech/language seems normal, still do it... they can look at social communication, and language processing too... Occupational Therapist (OT) (occupational therapy) will look at fine motor development, integration of infantile reflexes, motor planning, and sensory integration. DOes he have any problems with touch, etc. The stomping can come from needing deep sensory input. Does he do things too hard in general?? Big clue to get this checked out. How is his eating? is he picky, does he shove food in? does he only like certain textures or smells. Does he avoid textures or smells? is he fussy about clothes? does he like to be dirty and doesnt even notice....or does he avoid all dirt and anything touching his hands, feet etc? How does he do with other kds? How is his language development, imaginative play (does he do fantasy play or just repetitive play or lining things up etc.) Does he have things that he is obsessed about like trains, or balls, or cars/wheels, or certain tv characters and shows that he talks about all of the time? Does he go from happy to sad easily? how does he do with transitions from one thing to another? Do you have an mental health issues in your family? did he have any upsets early on (premature birth, reflux that was not able to be treated well or any other pain??? colic??) Did you get ill during his first three years for any reason that maybe interrupted his bonding ???? There is no judgement in any of this, just gives us some insight into things so we can let you know our experiences too. Hopefully it will help. Even if not, you have found a group of people who I really have found to be a huge support so I hope that is true for you too. I am sure others will come along with additional quesitons and ideas so I will stop at this.... I know it is overwhelming. Go easy on yourself. tehre is a TON of hope. OH one more thing, sorry... is he in preschool?? how is that going? [/QUOTE]
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