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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 503267" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>If they actually said that, get it in writing... saying that a child can't have an IEP or any service once on an IEP due to finances is ILLEGAL. I have been to ceu classes where they make it clear we are never to say that because the district can be sued.</p><p></p><p>Federal Law mandates "child find" which means that any child who is referred for an evaluation, even by parents, must be assessed for services with in a certain time line (each state varies on the time but can't go over federal limits). </p><p></p><p>If you send a certified letter, return receipt saying that you want your child to be assessed for special education services, including but not limited to ability, academic, emotional and behavioral, communication (sp/language), and motor...they must respond. If they deny then you appeal. IF they say it is not affecting his school work but you feel that it affects him socially/behaviorally in school (does he have problems at school? does he get into trouble there? does he have friends? does he get his work done, hand it in, pass classes?) then get an advocate and force their hands. </p><p></p><p>Once you send the letter and get the receipt stating the day they got it they are on a time clock which they must follow legally.</p><p></p><p>Simultaneously, if you have never done this, you may want to go to a neuropsychologist. They are psychologists who have specialized training in how the brain and behavior/mood/learning are connected. They are (in general) a profession that can help sort through different issues which can be impacting these challenges so you can know better where to go for help. </p><p></p><p>There are many many underlying issues kids have that, when they have to fight through them on their own just result in their acting out. All they know is that they feel badly and are frustrated. If medications and psychotherapy have not been the ticket to help, there may really be other things going on...maybe not...but what do you have to lose investigating it?</p><p></p><p>Was he ever a kid who hated how his socks felt, was picky about different textures or colors of foods or tastes or smells? Did he have any issues with handwriting or reading? Did/does he have friends, especially when he was young...could he play back and forth or did they just follow each other around and do the same kinds of things together. If there were every any issues like these, you might want an occupational therapy evaluation for sensory integration disorder and a speech/lang evaluation to see if there is a chance of any kind of processing problem. It may lead to a need for a specialized kind of audiology evaluation for auditory processing problems. (hearing may be fine but how the brain interprets things can really be challenged, and it often looks like willful behavior problems). </p><p></p><p>I dont know if these are things you would want to explore but I just threw them out there since you said you have not had much support in assessing these things. </p><p></p><p>In the mean time, have you ever read, <u>The Explosive Child</u> by Ross Greene? There are others too....Lost in School is by this author. These help many of us to use a different way of handling these problems that do nto respond to typical parenting methods like consequences and rewards to lower or increase behaviors.</p><p> </p><p>Others here will have many ideas... some have sent their kids to therapeutic boarding schools, or therapeutic wilderness programs, etc. He is only 15, you still do have time to control some things. </p><p></p><p>(I didn't ask, has he been assessed for chemical abuse? He has had problems for his whole life, but you said he increased dramatically when in middle school and so many kids, especially if they are on the fringe in the first place-easily influenced and wanting to self medicate away feelings of being different or inadequate--get involved in drugs/alcohol.... there are also many here who have walked that road if that is a part of it, or even if you suspect it could be)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 503267, member: 12886"] If they actually said that, get it in writing... saying that a child can't have an IEP or any service once on an IEP due to finances is ILLEGAL. I have been to ceu classes where they make it clear we are never to say that because the district can be sued. Federal Law mandates "child find" which means that any child who is referred for an evaluation, even by parents, must be assessed for services with in a certain time line (each state varies on the time but can't go over federal limits). If you send a certified letter, return receipt saying that you want your child to be assessed for special education services, including but not limited to ability, academic, emotional and behavioral, communication (sp/language), and motor...they must respond. If they deny then you appeal. IF they say it is not affecting his school work but you feel that it affects him socially/behaviorally in school (does he have problems at school? does he get into trouble there? does he have friends? does he get his work done, hand it in, pass classes?) then get an advocate and force their hands. Once you send the letter and get the receipt stating the day they got it they are on a time clock which they must follow legally. Simultaneously, if you have never done this, you may want to go to a neuropsychologist. They are psychologists who have specialized training in how the brain and behavior/mood/learning are connected. They are (in general) a profession that can help sort through different issues which can be impacting these challenges so you can know better where to go for help. There are many many underlying issues kids have that, when they have to fight through them on their own just result in their acting out. All they know is that they feel badly and are frustrated. If medications and psychotherapy have not been the ticket to help, there may really be other things going on...maybe not...but what do you have to lose investigating it? Was he ever a kid who hated how his socks felt, was picky about different textures or colors of foods or tastes or smells? Did he have any issues with handwriting or reading? Did/does he have friends, especially when he was young...could he play back and forth or did they just follow each other around and do the same kinds of things together. If there were every any issues like these, you might want an occupational therapy evaluation for sensory integration disorder and a speech/lang evaluation to see if there is a chance of any kind of processing problem. It may lead to a need for a specialized kind of audiology evaluation for auditory processing problems. (hearing may be fine but how the brain interprets things can really be challenged, and it often looks like willful behavior problems). I dont know if these are things you would want to explore but I just threw them out there since you said you have not had much support in assessing these things. In the mean time, have you ever read, [U]The Explosive Child[/U] by Ross Greene? There are others too....Lost in School is by this author. These help many of us to use a different way of handling these problems that do nto respond to typical parenting methods like consequences and rewards to lower or increase behaviors. Others here will have many ideas... some have sent their kids to therapeutic boarding schools, or therapeutic wilderness programs, etc. He is only 15, you still do have time to control some things. (I didn't ask, has he been assessed for chemical abuse? He has had problems for his whole life, but you said he increased dramatically when in middle school and so many kids, especially if they are on the fringe in the first place-easily influenced and wanting to self medicate away feelings of being different or inadequate--get involved in drugs/alcohol.... there are also many here who have walked that road if that is a part of it, or even if you suspect it could be) [/QUOTE]
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