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<blockquote data-quote="Zardo" data-source="post: 461367" data-attributes="member: 12490"><p>First - I want to say that I am sorry you're going through this and I am also sorry if my previous response was a bit strong. I only tell you these things because walked in your shoes. I do think the real issue is that he is exploring substance use - be it tobacco or pot. the one time addmitted pot use and missing pot in the house along with the tobacco in pipes are all sure signs of a teen who is headed down the road of use. Just try not to fall for the lies and excuses (which I did for a long time) - be vigilant, draw the line and HOLD IT. He will probably still push it - I know many people fighting this battle today. For whatever reason, this is a HUGE issue for today's young teens. One of the best things that happenned to us (believe it or not) was that our son got arrested. When that happenned - it was no longer us just being too strict. Our message became, we told you tihis would happen - we tried to help you - you didn't believe us - are you ready to work with us now? It was still a struggle for a bit, but Wilderness brought him through it. I don't think it will be smooth sailing from here on out - but we will no longer go crazy trying to stop him from making mistakes. We have put supports in place and it's up to him. If he falls again, our lines are drawn and he knows what the result will be.</p><p></p><p>GOOD LUCK - STAY STRONG - DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE WARNING SIGNS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardo, post: 461367, member: 12490"] First - I want to say that I am sorry you're going through this and I am also sorry if my previous response was a bit strong. I only tell you these things because walked in your shoes. I do think the real issue is that he is exploring substance use - be it tobacco or pot. the one time addmitted pot use and missing pot in the house along with the tobacco in pipes are all sure signs of a teen who is headed down the road of use. Just try not to fall for the lies and excuses (which I did for a long time) - be vigilant, draw the line and HOLD IT. He will probably still push it - I know many people fighting this battle today. For whatever reason, this is a HUGE issue for today's young teens. One of the best things that happenned to us (believe it or not) was that our son got arrested. When that happenned - it was no longer us just being too strict. Our message became, we told you tihis would happen - we tried to help you - you didn't believe us - are you ready to work with us now? It was still a struggle for a bit, but Wilderness brought him through it. I don't think it will be smooth sailing from here on out - but we will no longer go crazy trying to stop him from making mistakes. We have put supports in place and it's up to him. If he falls again, our lines are drawn and he knows what the result will be. GOOD LUCK - STAY STRONG - DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE WARNING SIGNS [/QUOTE]
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