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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 407895" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Hi and Welcome!! I'm glad to meet you but very sorry that you needed to find us. You will find a LOT of help here and no judging because we have truly been there done that with our kids.</p><p> </p><p>First of all, many of us do not believe that ODD is a separate disorder. A diagnosis (diagnosis) shoudl at least give you an idea of what direction to go for treatment. ODD offers nothing for treatment. It describes the behavior but that is all. With many, many of our kids the ODD disappears when the true problem is effectively treated. ODD is more a symptom than a disorder in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p>Second, I would guess that at least 90% of us had ADHD and ODD as the first diagnosis's our kids got. Then we learned in time that they were NOT the real problem. Other problems were creating behavior that looks like adhd, and adhd medications CAN help, but there is likely a larger problem that also needs a lot of help. As our kids grow, their symptoms change and we learn more about them and can give more accurate treatment. The real problem is that so many disorders create similar symptoms so there is no way to really know if something will work until you try it - esp if the child is young.</p><p> </p><p>It would be an excellent move to find a neuropsychologist (neuropsychologist) and have your difficult child fully tested. It will mean up to 12 hours of testing broken into shorter session of a few hours each (lenght of the testing sessions depends on the child's needs/abilities. If she cannot handle 3 hours of testing they will shorten it.</p><p> </p><p>Many of us have found that a neuropsychologist gives MUCH more accurate diagnosis than psychiatrists, therapists or other doctors. Even with the testing, she may need to be restested in a few years if/when her symptoms change. </p><p> </p><p>It is HARD to have your child in a psychiatric hospital. Don't beat yourself up because you cannot handle this in your home - our kids often need a LOT mroe than can be provided with-o help from experts, docs and hospitals. Use this time to rest and recover so that you are stronger when she comes home. </p><p> </p><p>many of us have gotten very good results from techniques in The Explosive Child" by Ross Greene. It is sort of our "bible" for raising difficult children. It may seem counter-intuitive, but it works anyway. Parenting with Love and Logic is also extremely helpful. It stressed logical consequences while working to strengthen the loving bond between parent and child. You can learn more about the book (sold in bookstores and also online) at the L&L website (<a href="http://www.loveandlogic.com" target="_blank">www.loveandlogic.com</a>). They have info on their various books and free things to read that can help parents and/or teachers.</p><p> </p><p>It is very very helpful to write a Parent Report about your child. years back some of the moms here created an outline to keep all the info, paperwork, etc... about a difficult child in one organized report. You can give school, docs, etc... any portion that you want them to know. It is very handy because you can show the docs what has and hasn't worked in the past and give a more complete description of the problem. You can find the Parent Report outline by using the link in my signature.</p><p> </p><p>One last tip is to try to record her rages one either video or audio so that you can show the docs what she is doing if/when she does her 'innocent me everyone is picking on me' routine. Cellphones with cameras are helpful for this, as are nannycams, mp3 players that record voices, etc... </p><p> </p><p>Others will be along soon with more info and questions in a little while. Welcome!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 407895, member: 1233"] Hi and Welcome!! I'm glad to meet you but very sorry that you needed to find us. You will find a LOT of help here and no judging because we have truly been there done that with our kids. First of all, many of us do not believe that ODD is a separate disorder. A diagnosis (diagnosis) shoudl at least give you an idea of what direction to go for treatment. ODD offers nothing for treatment. It describes the behavior but that is all. With many, many of our kids the ODD disappears when the true problem is effectively treated. ODD is more a symptom than a disorder in my opinion. Second, I would guess that at least 90% of us had ADHD and ODD as the first diagnosis's our kids got. Then we learned in time that they were NOT the real problem. Other problems were creating behavior that looks like adhd, and adhd medications CAN help, but there is likely a larger problem that also needs a lot of help. As our kids grow, their symptoms change and we learn more about them and can give more accurate treatment. The real problem is that so many disorders create similar symptoms so there is no way to really know if something will work until you try it - esp if the child is young. It would be an excellent move to find a neuropsychologist (neuropsychologist) and have your difficult child fully tested. It will mean up to 12 hours of testing broken into shorter session of a few hours each (lenght of the testing sessions depends on the child's needs/abilities. If she cannot handle 3 hours of testing they will shorten it. Many of us have found that a neuropsychologist gives MUCH more accurate diagnosis than psychiatrists, therapists or other doctors. Even with the testing, she may need to be restested in a few years if/when her symptoms change. It is HARD to have your child in a psychiatric hospital. Don't beat yourself up because you cannot handle this in your home - our kids often need a LOT mroe than can be provided with-o help from experts, docs and hospitals. Use this time to rest and recover so that you are stronger when she comes home. many of us have gotten very good results from techniques in The Explosive Child" by Ross Greene. It is sort of our "bible" for raising difficult children. It may seem counter-intuitive, but it works anyway. Parenting with Love and Logic is also extremely helpful. It stressed logical consequences while working to strengthen the loving bond between parent and child. You can learn more about the book (sold in bookstores and also online) at the L&L website ([URL="http://www.loveandlogic.com"]www.loveandlogic.com[/URL]). They have info on their various books and free things to read that can help parents and/or teachers. It is very very helpful to write a Parent Report about your child. years back some of the moms here created an outline to keep all the info, paperwork, etc... about a difficult child in one organized report. You can give school, docs, etc... any portion that you want them to know. It is very handy because you can show the docs what has and hasn't worked in the past and give a more complete description of the problem. You can find the Parent Report outline by using the link in my signature. One last tip is to try to record her rages one either video or audio so that you can show the docs what she is doing if/when she does her 'innocent me everyone is picking on me' routine. Cellphones with cameras are helpful for this, as are nannycams, mp3 players that record voices, etc... Others will be along soon with more info and questions in a little while. Welcome! [/QUOTE]
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