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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 219736" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>It could get to that, Witz- if it does, it will be the stupid po making the final decision, unfortunately. I know I've been burning the board up lately with posts so I know you might not have read the issues I've had with her, but let's just say, she's stupid and apparently doesn't even beleive people can have mental health issues, she goes out of her way to try to go against me and make me look bad to the judge, she undermines my authority to difficult child and she has tried to tell me I have to do things that I know to be false and that even the judge wouldn't back up.</p><p></p><p>My plan this past spring- instead of taking difficult child to the psychiatric hospital that he'd been in before, I took him to the er at the teaching hospital. They have a treatment center there for kids with mental health issues (outpatient), an Residential Treatment Center (RTC), and are set up to have kids in the psychiatric hospital for long term evaluations as well as acute. It is state funded, partially, but is aprt of a university. The director of all this is highly reknown for adhd, autism, and mood disorders in kids. She was commissioned by our governor to be on the panel of experts to evaluate Cho and all that.</p><p></p><p>She is the person that lead difficult child's MDE last Oct. When I informed the PO last Sept that I had an appointment to take difficult child there to get evaluation'd, the po told me I was wasting my time because I should concentrate only on what the judge ordered- mst whacko guy. I went anyway. The judge happened to be very interested in what this psychiatrist evaluation'd and reported.</p><p></p><p>So, this past spring, I take difficult child to that er, knowing that if he left the acute phase but needed more than discharge to home, they could keep him there and evaluation him longer or put him in their Residential Treatment Center (RTC). difficult child happened to be on the ankle bracelet at the time, and of course on probation. The psychiatrist at the er said they would admit him, she had to call the po to tell her and asked if there was any issue cutting the ankle bracelet off difficult child. The po informed that psychiatrist of all difficult child's previous charges and apparently did so in such a manner as to scare psychiatrist into thinking that difficult child was a danger to everyone around him. PO told psychiatrist (psychiatrist told me) to send difficult child to the state psychiatric hospital- over a hundred miles away- where the seriously violent mentally ill (criminally insane) kids are. (This place also has a reputation of not even getting started on anything with their patients for weeks because they get tied up in paperwork beuacracy). The psychiatrist at the hospital had already determined that she would accept difficult child, so she told me she couldn't just let him go home- she had to send difficult child where the po told her to. See, difficult child is under the authority of this idiot po right now, not me. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, since this was downtown and not in my county, the psychiatric hospital psychiatrist sent in the mental health person from their board (thank god- not my jurisdiction's) because she had to approve transport and funding for difficult child to go to that state psychiatric hospital. When we talked, she said it was clear that it was not necessary or appropriate and she asked if I minded if difficult child was transported to the psychiatric hospital he'd been in before and would my insurance cover that. I told her that was fine- I preferred it over the state psychiatric hospital. So, that's what transpired. Fortunately, no one called PO back- they just transported difficult child to the psychiatric hospital of my second choice.</p><p></p><p>Of course, that other psychiatric hospital is completely private and has no long-term stay or Residential Treatment Center (RTC). </p><p></p><p>This is a long way of saying that if I can't get the backing (that makes it look like they are taking independent action) of an authority who has as much weight as the PO, the PO will undermine my efforts. The school has that much authority- even if they don't technically, difficult child's judge used to be a teacher and she weighs VERY heavily on what the school says and the PO knows it.</p><p></p><p>Can you clarify- does this mean there is a place I can call (a private company) and tell them I need to hire them to pick up difficult child and take him to an er, even if he doesn't want to go?</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't feel like my life is in danger- immenent danger- short term. Shoot, what happened last night is nothing compared to what has happened in the past- especially when I realized that difficult child had gone thru a phase of getting up during the night and stabbing walls with a knife. difficult child has had outbursts like this for about a year or so-intermittently. Normally, they come once every few mos. When he's majorly unstable, it might be more than one outburst but there are so many other indicators that he's out of whack, I'm usually already on top of a medication change or plan to get him to er. I don't think that's where he is right now. </p><p></p><p>Worse case scenario, I will have cops come get him, put him in juvy and explain to judge and hop she listens. I would do that before I let him kill me or himself or anyone else.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that's where we are right now. I think if something doesn't throw a wrench in this, it would get there someday. But, it isn't just that, it is that I can't afford to do this- I can't quit my job and difficult child can't quit school, so something has to be done.</p><p></p><p>But, I do appreciate all the ideas. Believe it or not, I am taking a thing or two from each post as I try to formulate a plan that the po can't undermine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 219736, member: 3699"] It could get to that, Witz- if it does, it will be the stupid po making the final decision, unfortunately. I know I've been burning the board up lately with posts so I know you might not have read the issues I've had with her, but let's just say, she's stupid and apparently doesn't even beleive people can have mental health issues, she goes out of her way to try to go against me and make me look bad to the judge, she undermines my authority to difficult child and she has tried to tell me I have to do things that I know to be false and that even the judge wouldn't back up. My plan this past spring- instead of taking difficult child to the psychiatric hospital that he'd been in before, I took him to the er at the teaching hospital. They have a treatment center there for kids with mental health issues (outpatient), an Residential Treatment Center (RTC), and are set up to have kids in the psychiatric hospital for long term evaluations as well as acute. It is state funded, partially, but is aprt of a university. The director of all this is highly reknown for adhd, autism, and mood disorders in kids. She was commissioned by our governor to be on the panel of experts to evaluate Cho and all that. She is the person that lead difficult child's MDE last Oct. When I informed the PO last Sept that I had an appointment to take difficult child there to get evaluation'd, the po told me I was wasting my time because I should concentrate only on what the judge ordered- mst whacko guy. I went anyway. The judge happened to be very interested in what this psychiatrist evaluation'd and reported. So, this past spring, I take difficult child to that er, knowing that if he left the acute phase but needed more than discharge to home, they could keep him there and evaluation him longer or put him in their Residential Treatment Center (RTC). difficult child happened to be on the ankle bracelet at the time, and of course on probation. The psychiatrist at the er said they would admit him, she had to call the po to tell her and asked if there was any issue cutting the ankle bracelet off difficult child. The po informed that psychiatrist of all difficult child's previous charges and apparently did so in such a manner as to scare psychiatrist into thinking that difficult child was a danger to everyone around him. PO told psychiatrist (psychiatrist told me) to send difficult child to the state psychiatric hospital- over a hundred miles away- where the seriously violent mentally ill (criminally insane) kids are. (This place also has a reputation of not even getting started on anything with their patients for weeks because they get tied up in paperwork beuacracy). The psychiatrist at the hospital had already determined that she would accept difficult child, so she told me she couldn't just let him go home- she had to send difficult child where the po told her to. See, difficult child is under the authority of this idiot po right now, not me. Anyway, since this was downtown and not in my county, the psychiatric hospital psychiatrist sent in the mental health person from their board (thank god- not my jurisdiction's) because she had to approve transport and funding for difficult child to go to that state psychiatric hospital. When we talked, she said it was clear that it was not necessary or appropriate and she asked if I minded if difficult child was transported to the psychiatric hospital he'd been in before and would my insurance cover that. I told her that was fine- I preferred it over the state psychiatric hospital. So, that's what transpired. Fortunately, no one called PO back- they just transported difficult child to the psychiatric hospital of my second choice. Of course, that other psychiatric hospital is completely private and has no long-term stay or Residential Treatment Center (RTC). This is a long way of saying that if I can't get the backing (that makes it look like they are taking independent action) of an authority who has as much weight as the PO, the PO will undermine my efforts. The school has that much authority- even if they don't technically, difficult child's judge used to be a teacher and she weighs VERY heavily on what the school says and the PO knows it. Can you clarify- does this mean there is a place I can call (a private company) and tell them I need to hire them to pick up difficult child and take him to an er, even if he doesn't want to go? Now, I don't feel like my life is in danger- immenent danger- short term. Shoot, what happened last night is nothing compared to what has happened in the past- especially when I realized that difficult child had gone thru a phase of getting up during the night and stabbing walls with a knife. difficult child has had outbursts like this for about a year or so-intermittently. Normally, they come once every few mos. When he's majorly unstable, it might be more than one outburst but there are so many other indicators that he's out of whack, I'm usually already on top of a medication change or plan to get him to er. I don't think that's where he is right now. Worse case scenario, I will have cops come get him, put him in juvy and explain to judge and hop she listens. I would do that before I let him kill me or himself or anyone else. I don't think that's where we are right now. I think if something doesn't throw a wrench in this, it would get there someday. But, it isn't just that, it is that I can't afford to do this- I can't quit my job and difficult child can't quit school, so something has to be done. But, I do appreciate all the ideas. Believe it or not, I am taking a thing or two from each post as I try to formulate a plan that the po can't undermine. [/QUOTE]
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