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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 627765" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>I'm sorry about your grandson and your hurting heart. Did your grandson have drug exposure while your daughter was pregnant? Did she drink? If she was sober, was this child's life a mass of chaos and different caregivers and maybe some neglect or abuse during his first three years? He sounds like a child with attachment disorder. Trying to harm animals and setting fires and two of the BIG THREE READ FLAGS for a child developing psychopathic tendencies, even that young. The third red flag is peeing and pooping inappropriately and even playing with it sometimes. I can tell you right now, even though I'm not a psychiatrist, this is way beyond ADHD. I mean, he may have ADHD, autism, bipolar or anything...but he also is doing some REALLY dangerous things that need more intervention than he is getting. Did he have to deal with multiple boyfriends or girlfriends from Dad and Mom? Flavor of the week, so to speak? </p><p></p><p>I am really sorry. If the psychiatrist really knows the worst and all he can come up with is ADHD, I think your daughter needs to take her son to far more knowledgeable psychiatrist. He is seriously lacking in empathy. Conduct Disorder is basically the name for antisocial pesonality disorder in a kid, but that is not diagnosed in childhood. Still, since he is just a child, again, I feel he needs extreme intervention...medications alone will not help this child. He is really going to hurt an animal or person if he keeps this up and then it will be horrible. Also, attachment disordered kids, which is what he could be and sounds like to me, can be very engaging on the outside when they want to get something from the other person.</p><p></p><p>We lived with a child who had attachment disorder. Not saying this is what he has, but he is definitely on his way to big trouble if it isn't addressed now and with a lot of the best quality psychiatric care.If your daughter waits until the teen years and he is out of control and maybe into drugs and crime...it is too late to pull him back. </p><p></p><p>Is he ever inappropriately sexual, such as showing people his private parts or touching Mom or anyone in her private places or touching school children? That CAN go with these symptoms. If so, he was probably abused sometimes in his past. Often kid's little minds block out the abuse, but deep inside they remember and act out on others. If your daughter or son-in-law had a slew of girlfriends/boyfriends passing through, there is risk that he was perped on and no longer even remembers it. This happened to us...along with the animal abuse, the fires and the inappropriate peeing and pooping in the house. Our child, who we had adopted, acted to our face like he loved our dog, but he killed him. He set little fires in his room in front of our youngest two and told them he'd burn the house down because he's the Devil and they believed him enough not to tell us what he was doing (he was sexually perping on them as well).</p><p></p><p>Maybe it is not this bad right now. Your daughter needs to make sure it doesn't get that bad. </p><p></p><p>I'm so sorry that this is happening. Please take care. I would not leave your grandson alone with any pets and lock up any matches or lighters in your home. Trying to drown a dog is serious. Our child tried to do that before he finally killed him, but the dog was rescued. My youngest kids were too afraid to say they saw him throw the dog into the lake and it was a miracle he didn't drown the first time. If your daughter has younger kids, well, I'd take precautions just in case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 627765, member: 1550"] I'm sorry about your grandson and your hurting heart. Did your grandson have drug exposure while your daughter was pregnant? Did she drink? If she was sober, was this child's life a mass of chaos and different caregivers and maybe some neglect or abuse during his first three years? He sounds like a child with attachment disorder. Trying to harm animals and setting fires and two of the BIG THREE READ FLAGS for a child developing psychopathic tendencies, even that young. The third red flag is peeing and pooping inappropriately and even playing with it sometimes. I can tell you right now, even though I'm not a psychiatrist, this is way beyond ADHD. I mean, he may have ADHD, autism, bipolar or anything...but he also is doing some REALLY dangerous things that need more intervention than he is getting. Did he have to deal with multiple boyfriends or girlfriends from Dad and Mom? Flavor of the week, so to speak? I am really sorry. If the psychiatrist really knows the worst and all he can come up with is ADHD, I think your daughter needs to take her son to far more knowledgeable psychiatrist. He is seriously lacking in empathy. Conduct Disorder is basically the name for antisocial pesonality disorder in a kid, but that is not diagnosed in childhood. Still, since he is just a child, again, I feel he needs extreme intervention...medications alone will not help this child. He is really going to hurt an animal or person if he keeps this up and then it will be horrible. Also, attachment disordered kids, which is what he could be and sounds like to me, can be very engaging on the outside when they want to get something from the other person. We lived with a child who had attachment disorder. Not saying this is what he has, but he is definitely on his way to big trouble if it isn't addressed now and with a lot of the best quality psychiatric care.If your daughter waits until the teen years and he is out of control and maybe into drugs and crime...it is too late to pull him back. Is he ever inappropriately sexual, such as showing people his private parts or touching Mom or anyone in her private places or touching school children? That CAN go with these symptoms. If so, he was probably abused sometimes in his past. Often kid's little minds block out the abuse, but deep inside they remember and act out on others. If your daughter or son-in-law had a slew of girlfriends/boyfriends passing through, there is risk that he was perped on and no longer even remembers it. This happened to us...along with the animal abuse, the fires and the inappropriate peeing and pooping in the house. Our child, who we had adopted, acted to our face like he loved our dog, but he killed him. He set little fires in his room in front of our youngest two and told them he'd burn the house down because he's the Devil and they believed him enough not to tell us what he was doing (he was sexually perping on them as well). Maybe it is not this bad right now. Your daughter needs to make sure it doesn't get that bad. I'm so sorry that this is happening. Please take care. I would not leave your grandson alone with any pets and lock up any matches or lighters in your home. Trying to drown a dog is serious. Our child tried to do that before he finally killed him, but the dog was rescued. My youngest kids were too afraid to say they saw him throw the dog into the lake and it was a miracle he didn't drown the first time. If your daughter has younger kids, well, I'd take precautions just in case. [/QUOTE]
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