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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 639791" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Suz, I can see your point of view, but you are assuming that U.S. employers are rational. If you spent a month here exploring how companies deal with their employees, I'm sure it would shock you. There is NO job security and this is new. There used to be, when unions were more powerful. I hate to blame the tea party on this, and I won't completely blame them, but since the libertarians have literally taken over our government many things have changed and, in my opinion, they are not for the better for working people. In our state, our govenor pretty much abolished unions.</p><p></p><p>You'd think we would keep good workers who have knowledge so that we don't have to train new people. In reality, often long timers are fired, let alone new workers (with potential or not) and fire them for insane reasons. A woman I work with was just fired after ten years at Goodwill, which is a charitable organization, because she spoke her mind to the wrong person. She had no recourse and we have been shorthanded ever since and it has not been easy to find the right replacement and the ones who are still there are busting tail to make up for having one less worker. Does this sound crazy? I think so. But when you have unlimited power, you don't always make sense or do what is easiest for yourself, I guess.</p><p></p><p>A young worker, who has not been at a job long, then asks for a different schedule is likely to be fired in place of that other kid who is willing to work for minimum wage AND the crazy schedule. And trust me I agree it's a crazy schedule! But kids are willing to do it because they want to work. I do not feel it is fair, but I am on the very liberal end of U.S. thinking. Some have called me a socialist. That is a REALLY BAD insult in the U.S...lol. And I've been called that only because I believe everyone should have healthcare, even if we pay higher taxes, and that the standards for getting financial help for our poor are way to stringent. I would probably like your country a lot better than mine, if indeed they care about all of their citizens.</p><p></p><p>Our kids, easy child and difficult child young people, have to adapt to the crazy way our companies have total control over the workers. I have heard that, say, in France and the UK you sign a contract with your future employer. I LOVE THAT. It will not happen here in my grandchildren's lifetime. Too many really old fashion thinkers who consider that unfair to business and don't care if it is unfair to workers.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, you gave good advice. I just don't know if it would work here. I'm assuming that a company can't stamp all over somebody in your country, like they can here. Life can be cruel, cold, and very impersonal in our working environment. And anyone can be fired at any time for any reason. Long ago I had one really strange boss who called a meeting and told us, in a very haughty way, "I can fire you because I don't like the way you said 'hello' to me. I can fire you because I don't like the color of your hair." She was right too. No logical reason is necessary, although many companies do keep records, slanted to their point of view, of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 639791, member: 1550"] Suz, I can see your point of view, but you are assuming that U.S. employers are rational. If you spent a month here exploring how companies deal with their employees, I'm sure it would shock you. There is NO job security and this is new. There used to be, when unions were more powerful. I hate to blame the tea party on this, and I won't completely blame them, but since the libertarians have literally taken over our government many things have changed and, in my opinion, they are not for the better for working people. In our state, our govenor pretty much abolished unions. You'd think we would keep good workers who have knowledge so that we don't have to train new people. In reality, often long timers are fired, let alone new workers (with potential or not) and fire them for insane reasons. A woman I work with was just fired after ten years at Goodwill, which is a charitable organization, because she spoke her mind to the wrong person. She had no recourse and we have been shorthanded ever since and it has not been easy to find the right replacement and the ones who are still there are busting tail to make up for having one less worker. Does this sound crazy? I think so. But when you have unlimited power, you don't always make sense or do what is easiest for yourself, I guess. A young worker, who has not been at a job long, then asks for a different schedule is likely to be fired in place of that other kid who is willing to work for minimum wage AND the crazy schedule. And trust me I agree it's a crazy schedule! But kids are willing to do it because they want to work. I do not feel it is fair, but I am on the very liberal end of U.S. thinking. Some have called me a socialist. That is a REALLY BAD insult in the U.S...lol. And I've been called that only because I believe everyone should have healthcare, even if we pay higher taxes, and that the standards for getting financial help for our poor are way to stringent. I would probably like your country a lot better than mine, if indeed they care about all of their citizens. Our kids, easy child and difficult child young people, have to adapt to the crazy way our companies have total control over the workers. I have heard that, say, in France and the UK you sign a contract with your future employer. I LOVE THAT. It will not happen here in my grandchildren's lifetime. Too many really old fashion thinkers who consider that unfair to business and don't care if it is unfair to workers. Anyhow, you gave good advice. I just don't know if it would work here. I'm assuming that a company can't stamp all over somebody in your country, like they can here. Life can be cruel, cold, and very impersonal in our working environment. And anyone can be fired at any time for any reason. Long ago I had one really strange boss who called a meeting and told us, in a very haughty way, "I can fire you because I don't like the way you said 'hello' to me. I can fire you because I don't like the color of your hair." She was right too. No logical reason is necessary, although many companies do keep records, slanted to their point of view, of course. [/QUOTE]
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