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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 639799" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Yikes. Calm down. I know they can't fire anyone for race or religion or race. Legally this is true.</p><p></p><p>But they sure as heck don't have to accept you are disabled just because you say so. It has to be documented by a professional that you have a disability. I had to go through Job Rehabilitation and get assessed by them to officially be labled disabled. I know for a fact as I went through it. I also tried appealing to many boss's sympathy explaining I needed a chance, I had learning disabilities, etc. Got me nothing but a pink slip. They wanted somebody who could do the job on their terms.</p><p></p><p>Anyone can say "I have a disability. I have bipolar." So what? You not only have to have proof of bipolar disorder by the right professionals, but you have to have it proven that this affects your ability to work, but that you CAN work if this or that accomodation is made. And a lot of companies don't want to hire disabled people. They can not put down on your application that you were not hired because you are disabled, but they can say you were not qualified or somebody else was more qualified and this is totally legal, even if they really did not want to hire you because you were disabled.</p><p></p><p>Also, any company can fire anyone for any reason other than the ones stated above. Now, they probably would not say, "You are fired because you are mentally slow and can't handle the work." But they will have a neat file about your errors and fire you. I've had this experience more times than I can count. I *have* a disability. Many, in fact. And until I knew about documentation and th e bureaucracy telling the boss I had a disability only made them think I was stupid.</p><p></p><p>You are right that if you are disabled and can do the work (I'm talking about documented) they can not fire you for that reason and why would they want to? However, they can pretty much fire you for any reason they want, including the taboos and say it was for another reason and show paperwork, true or not true, that indicates it was not because of race, although it actually could be. And you, as the employee, would have to sue them to prove they have done it illegally. I have tried that too. Guess who won? A little guy without the money for a hotshot lawyer will not win, even if he is in the right. This is just how life is. The people who were here before you know about my discrimination suit against my last employer because an employee constantly brought up my disability and tried to get me fired because of it. It worked. I filed. I got nowhere. YOU try it sometime and good luck and, trust me, I hope you or your chld or whoever the disabled person is wins.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but I've been there/done that so many times that I do know how it works. You do need to actually be labled as disabled by professionals for any company to have to consider you disabled. You can not just declare yourself disabled and get accomodated, such as not working a heavy schedule or not having to do as much stressful work as another person. Nope. Sorry. That is wrong. Not going to argue it, but I lived it. Lived it for thirty plus years. Honestly, the very best way is to get tested, get labeled as Disabled, accept the services and get a job that way. It has worked really well for me. I LOVE THIS NEW JOB!</p><p></p><p>But doing it just by saying, "by the way, I have schizophrenia" will probably get you fired, although the company will never ever say it is because you ahve schizophrenia. Best to do it the right way, through the system, if you are truly a disabled person. There are laws and idealism and then there is real life...and real life is a lot sadder and harder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 639799, member: 1550"] Yikes. Calm down. I know they can't fire anyone for race or religion or race. Legally this is true. But they sure as heck don't have to accept you are disabled just because you say so. It has to be documented by a professional that you have a disability. I had to go through Job Rehabilitation and get assessed by them to officially be labled disabled. I know for a fact as I went through it. I also tried appealing to many boss's sympathy explaining I needed a chance, I had learning disabilities, etc. Got me nothing but a pink slip. They wanted somebody who could do the job on their terms. Anyone can say "I have a disability. I have bipolar." So what? You not only have to have proof of bipolar disorder by the right professionals, but you have to have it proven that this affects your ability to work, but that you CAN work if this or that accomodation is made. And a lot of companies don't want to hire disabled people. They can not put down on your application that you were not hired because you are disabled, but they can say you were not qualified or somebody else was more qualified and this is totally legal, even if they really did not want to hire you because you were disabled. Also, any company can fire anyone for any reason other than the ones stated above. Now, they probably would not say, "You are fired because you are mentally slow and can't handle the work." But they will have a neat file about your errors and fire you. I've had this experience more times than I can count. I *have* a disability. Many, in fact. And until I knew about documentation and th e bureaucracy telling the boss I had a disability only made them think I was stupid. You are right that if you are disabled and can do the work (I'm talking about documented) they can not fire you for that reason and why would they want to? However, they can pretty much fire you for any reason they want, including the taboos and say it was for another reason and show paperwork, true or not true, that indicates it was not because of race, although it actually could be. And you, as the employee, would have to sue them to prove they have done it illegally. I have tried that too. Guess who won? A little guy without the money for a hotshot lawyer will not win, even if he is in the right. This is just how life is. The people who were here before you know about my discrimination suit against my last employer because an employee constantly brought up my disability and tried to get me fired because of it. It worked. I filed. I got nowhere. YOU try it sometime and good luck and, trust me, I hope you or your chld or whoever the disabled person is wins. Sorry, but I've been there/done that so many times that I do know how it works. You do need to actually be labled as disabled by professionals for any company to have to consider you disabled. You can not just declare yourself disabled and get accomodated, such as not working a heavy schedule or not having to do as much stressful work as another person. Nope. Sorry. That is wrong. Not going to argue it, but I lived it. Lived it for thirty plus years. Honestly, the very best way is to get tested, get labeled as Disabled, accept the services and get a job that way. It has worked really well for me. I LOVE THIS NEW JOB! But doing it just by saying, "by the way, I have schizophrenia" will probably get you fired, although the company will never ever say it is because you ahve schizophrenia. Best to do it the right way, through the system, if you are truly a disabled person. There are laws and idealism and then there is real life...and real life is a lot sadder and harder. [/QUOTE]
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