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<blockquote data-quote="toughlovin" data-source="post: 562575"><p>AG - I am sorry you are going through this... it really is such an awful feeling of disappointment and pure worry!! My sense from your posts is that he had already relapsed when you started to suspect he was going to. To me his nastiness and threat of relapsing if you didnt do x... was a sign he had already relapsed or was preparing to. I think when someone is really in recovery they dont talk that way. </p><p></p><p>I knew at one point when we visited my son in Fl when he was in a sober house... he just got antsy and kind of nasty when we were only there a short time... I had the feeling then he was relapsing and he was. It is one reason why I have decided I will not go and visit or see my son if I know he is using because he just plain is not pleasant to be around. When they are using they want drugs and they will do whatever they need to do to get them, and will manipulate in whatever way they think will work... and have absolutely no consideration for your feelings at that point.</p><p></p><p>And yes his sobriety is his and his alone.</p><p></p><p>TL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toughlovin, post: 562575"] AG - I am sorry you are going through this... it really is such an awful feeling of disappointment and pure worry!! My sense from your posts is that he had already relapsed when you started to suspect he was going to. To me his nastiness and threat of relapsing if you didnt do x... was a sign he had already relapsed or was preparing to. I think when someone is really in recovery they dont talk that way. I knew at one point when we visited my son in Fl when he was in a sober house... he just got antsy and kind of nasty when we were only there a short time... I had the feeling then he was relapsing and he was. It is one reason why I have decided I will not go and visit or see my son if I know he is using because he just plain is not pleasant to be around. When they are using they want drugs and they will do whatever they need to do to get them, and will manipulate in whatever way they think will work... and have absolutely no consideration for your feelings at that point. And yes his sobriety is his and his alone. TL [/QUOTE]
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