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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 298349" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>Oh Toto.....</p><p> </p><p>I am so sorry -and I can't imagine to the degree you and husband suffer with a beauty like K and the disorders she suffers from. It literally breaks my heart to read about it, but I'm a warrior auntie and I refuse to give up..period. </p><p> </p><p>I have a friend who has a sister that is schizophrenic. Thirteen months ago the woman was out of her mind. She had auditory and visual hallucinations. She was abusing drugs and herself for money for drugs. Her family had given up and detached to the point of walking away. Her brother, my friend couldn't let go. He took her in, took her home and took her to a nutritionist. Sounds goofy right? Years of hospitalizations and pills, and therapy - and this man starts with vegetables and whole grains? Ack. We were not impressed. </p><p> </p><p>Well I'm here to tell you that she's now babysitting for them. Attending church, and taking some supplements and vitamins. I'm not sure what all is involved, but his logic was pretty simple. If you've tried everything else - and it's failed, get basic. Start by cleaning the system out. (Similar to your idea of going off all medications) Then diet eliminations - well - you eat organic already so that's a bonus. But what supplements could be missing that may not have shown up in blood work? What's missing? </p><p> </p><p>A lot of what I'm reading about schizophrenics and from what my friend has told me about his sister is they need MEGA doses of certain B vitamins. I think he said B-3 maybe? I tried to do a search for it and came up with this link <a href="http://www.healing-arts.org/children/ADHD/nutritional.htm" target="_blank">http://www.healing-arts.org/children/ADHD/nutritional.htm</a>. I'm not a freak for holistic arts, but it couldn't hurt to check out the article part way down that talks about severely disturbed kids. I think if you look it says something about B vitamins. </p><p> </p><p>I know K is an exception to almost every rule but if Lithium is not working - and should - that would say to me - it's not working. And if she can hold it together some times and then flips.....it's kinda like a car with a leaky oil pan. YOu put oil in the car - and it runs okay until the oil runs out then it doesn't run right. With K - you put food in and she gets micro doses of vitamins or nutrients and her body stores stuff or MAYBE is storing something IMPROPERLY - and when the reserves are gone? IT's like the car - she stops working. </p><p> </p><p>As far as the Residential Treatment Center (RTC)? No. But as far as you and DF all the time, all the time all the time? No. I think you should hire a nanny or a manny or a NannyMcFee person to give you a break and give K a break too. Nothing personal - but You 2 could use a break and SHE could use a break too. Plus if you were to hire someone that was say - a resident psychiatric student or an herboligist, or a um...(stupid brain) nutritionist that would recognize some of her symptoms....that could assist you in video taping or documenting? Maybe what you are seeing as psychotic episodes are actually - something else???? (trying to think outside the box) NOT playing it down - like when elderly people have a dementia moment they call it alzheimers - and now they believe it's a type of diabetes of the brain. </p><p> </p><p>Please please don't take that I'm taking ANY of what K does or what YOU endure as minimizing this I'm just throwing other things out for consideration....maybe being hopeful that her hallucinations could be caused from something no ones discovered yet. And that something one of us says here would put you and your husband on a path to her finding wellness. THat's all. </p><p> </p><p>When she says I don't know I don't know......tell her None of us know either and it's not just her. Then hug her from me.....huge hugs. I must go find heart glue now....poor baby. You're a tough Mom Toto. Very Very tough...and she's a really really tough kid. </p><p> </p><p>Sending donkey angels. </p><p>Love </p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 298349, member: 4964"] Oh Toto..... I am so sorry -and I can't imagine to the degree you and husband suffer with a beauty like K and the disorders she suffers from. It literally breaks my heart to read about it, but I'm a warrior auntie and I refuse to give up..period. I have a friend who has a sister that is schizophrenic. Thirteen months ago the woman was out of her mind. She had auditory and visual hallucinations. She was abusing drugs and herself for money for drugs. Her family had given up and detached to the point of walking away. Her brother, my friend couldn't let go. He took her in, took her home and took her to a nutritionist. Sounds goofy right? Years of hospitalizations and pills, and therapy - and this man starts with vegetables and whole grains? Ack. We were not impressed. Well I'm here to tell you that she's now babysitting for them. Attending church, and taking some supplements and vitamins. I'm not sure what all is involved, but his logic was pretty simple. If you've tried everything else - and it's failed, get basic. Start by cleaning the system out. (Similar to your idea of going off all medications) Then diet eliminations - well - you eat organic already so that's a bonus. But what supplements could be missing that may not have shown up in blood work? What's missing? A lot of what I'm reading about schizophrenics and from what my friend has told me about his sister is they need MEGA doses of certain B vitamins. I think he said B-3 maybe? I tried to do a search for it and came up with this link [URL]http://www.healing-arts.org/children/ADHD/nutritional.htm[/URL]. I'm not a freak for holistic arts, but it couldn't hurt to check out the article part way down that talks about severely disturbed kids. I think if you look it says something about B vitamins. I know K is an exception to almost every rule but if Lithium is not working - and should - that would say to me - it's not working. And if she can hold it together some times and then flips.....it's kinda like a car with a leaky oil pan. YOu put oil in the car - and it runs okay until the oil runs out then it doesn't run right. With K - you put food in and she gets micro doses of vitamins or nutrients and her body stores stuff or MAYBE is storing something IMPROPERLY - and when the reserves are gone? IT's like the car - she stops working. As far as the Residential Treatment Center (RTC)? No. But as far as you and DF all the time, all the time all the time? No. I think you should hire a nanny or a manny or a NannyMcFee person to give you a break and give K a break too. Nothing personal - but You 2 could use a break and SHE could use a break too. Plus if you were to hire someone that was say - a resident psychiatric student or an herboligist, or a um...(stupid brain) nutritionist that would recognize some of her symptoms....that could assist you in video taping or documenting? Maybe what you are seeing as psychotic episodes are actually - something else???? (trying to think outside the box) NOT playing it down - like when elderly people have a dementia moment they call it alzheimers - and now they believe it's a type of diabetes of the brain. Please please don't take that I'm taking ANY of what K does or what YOU endure as minimizing this I'm just throwing other things out for consideration....maybe being hopeful that her hallucinations could be caused from something no ones discovered yet. And that something one of us says here would put you and your husband on a path to her finding wellness. THat's all. When she says I don't know I don't know......tell her None of us know either and it's not just her. Then hug her from me.....huge hugs. I must go find heart glue now....poor baby. You're a tough Mom Toto. Very Very tough...and she's a really really tough kid. Sending donkey angels. Love Star [/QUOTE]
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