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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 358160" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Heather, there are times when your daughter sounds a lot like my easy child 2/difficult child 2.</p><p></p><p>I have a few thoughts for you. I may have said this to you before - ignore me if I have. But easy child 2/difficult child 2 has had nausea/stomach pain symptoms for years and it took ages and a lot of fruitless mucking around getting nowhere for years before we finally had a gastroenterologist suggest something that helped.</p><p></p><p>What it boiled down to - easy child 2/difficult child 2 has an oversensitivity of the nerve endings in the stomach. So the normal stretch receptors, for example, that tell an average person that they have now eaten enough and can enjoy feeling sated, in easy child 2/difficult child 2 actually cause pain and nausea. </p><p></p><p>The doctor prescribed medications to calm down those touchy stomach nerves. He said this happens especially to girls, especially form mid-teens to early 20s. Also, digging around in the family, we found similar symptoms in other relatives. Even easy child had problems with vomiting due to anxiety (still does). Again, it's related to a hypersensitivity in the nerve endings in the stomach. Having anxiety as well only aggravates things.</p><p></p><p>On the way to a diagnosis for easy child 2/difficult child 2, she had her appendix removed; she had a gastroscopy; she had various ultrasounds (looking for an ovarian cyst); she was referred to a psychiatrist.</p><p></p><p>The medications used on her are an older-style antidepressant tat actually doesn't work well as an AD (so we were told) but does calm down the nerve endings. It's tryptanol. I remember when a doctor put me on tryptanol as an attempt to get my pain under control - I got sedated byt it on miniscule doses. But easy child 2/difficult child 2 tolerated it well and ti was almost magic for her.</p><p></p><p>Also useful advice she had to follow - cut out alcohol. Eat small meals often, cut out fat. Also don't smoke (although easy child 2/difficult child 2 doesn't smoke).</p><p></p><p>The problems with girls like ours - the psychiatric reason is so obvious, that a possible physical issue gets left on the shelf for too long.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that your daughter has the same problem as my daughter, but it could be worth checking out. Certainly when she felt sick, anxious and fed up about it, easy child 2/difficult child 2 can be extremely difficult to deal with - histrionic, temperamental, egocentric, hysterical, negative. Sarcastic, vicious, teary, avoidant. But if she feels better, it's easier for her to behave more acceptably.</p><p></p><p>She is now off the tryptanol because the stomach problems are now a great deal better. She was on it for maybe 18 months.</p><p></p><p>Even if you can only help in a small part of your daughter's problems, any bit dealt with has to be a bonus.</p><p></p><p>I hope this can help.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 358160, member: 1991"] Heather, there are times when your daughter sounds a lot like my easy child 2/difficult child 2. I have a few thoughts for you. I may have said this to you before - ignore me if I have. But easy child 2/difficult child 2 has had nausea/stomach pain symptoms for years and it took ages and a lot of fruitless mucking around getting nowhere for years before we finally had a gastroenterologist suggest something that helped. What it boiled down to - easy child 2/difficult child 2 has an oversensitivity of the nerve endings in the stomach. So the normal stretch receptors, for example, that tell an average person that they have now eaten enough and can enjoy feeling sated, in easy child 2/difficult child 2 actually cause pain and nausea. The doctor prescribed medications to calm down those touchy stomach nerves. He said this happens especially to girls, especially form mid-teens to early 20s. Also, digging around in the family, we found similar symptoms in other relatives. Even easy child had problems with vomiting due to anxiety (still does). Again, it's related to a hypersensitivity in the nerve endings in the stomach. Having anxiety as well only aggravates things. On the way to a diagnosis for easy child 2/difficult child 2, she had her appendix removed; she had a gastroscopy; she had various ultrasounds (looking for an ovarian cyst); she was referred to a psychiatrist. The medications used on her are an older-style antidepressant tat actually doesn't work well as an AD (so we were told) but does calm down the nerve endings. It's tryptanol. I remember when a doctor put me on tryptanol as an attempt to get my pain under control - I got sedated byt it on miniscule doses. But easy child 2/difficult child 2 tolerated it well and ti was almost magic for her. Also useful advice she had to follow - cut out alcohol. Eat small meals often, cut out fat. Also don't smoke (although easy child 2/difficult child 2 doesn't smoke). The problems with girls like ours - the psychiatric reason is so obvious, that a possible physical issue gets left on the shelf for too long. I'm not saying that your daughter has the same problem as my daughter, but it could be worth checking out. Certainly when she felt sick, anxious and fed up about it, easy child 2/difficult child 2 can be extremely difficult to deal with - histrionic, temperamental, egocentric, hysterical, negative. Sarcastic, vicious, teary, avoidant. But if she feels better, it's easier for her to behave more acceptably. She is now off the tryptanol because the stomach problems are now a great deal better. She was on it for maybe 18 months. Even if you can only help in a small part of your daughter's problems, any bit dealt with has to be a bonus. I hope this can help. Marg [/QUOTE]
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