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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 428339" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Ok, I'm back from the store and since I have a few responses already, I'll be brief in trying to respond to each one a little. So if I "sound" too brief, it's just because I'm trying to touch a little on each one. </p><p></p><p>Yes, I'm keeping all correspondence- I even kept all correspondence from last place we lived and this has been going on 5-6 years now. DDD,. I agree- but <strong><u>I</u></strong> am going to get a light at the end of my tunnel no matter what difficult child and the juvenile courts decide to do at this point. Believe it or not, I had to remind the first PO "we" had in this town wwhat difficult child's committing offenses were (for first and second commitment) EVERY time I talked to him.</p><p></p><p>Donna, I think you are right except one thing that is different in this state's Department of Juvenile Justice facilities, at least, is that they will lock an entire unit down if several get out of control- either in the unit or at school. They don't punish as severely for flooding but I have a feeling since difficult child busted that sprinkler head a couple of mos ago and has flooded before, he's pushed his limits too ffar this time.</p><p></p><p>Utah- the fear (and real threat) in the past was difficult child being turned over to dss- long story I won't go into but a horrible thing to worry about in our specific case- but at his age now and given his committing offenses, I <em>think</em> I can avoid an ultimatum in court by a judge saying "either I take difficult child home on parole or he goes to dss or I get found in contempt". At least I'll be pushing down the road like this won't happen until I'm sure otherwise- and have fought it in court.</p><p></p><p>And then there is difficult child- who probably is resolved to keep himself incarcerated until he's 18yo (about 18 mos from now) unless he can come back and live with me on his terms- which isn't going to happen. I told last 2 POs that if I have to go to court and explain to the judge why, I will. I know this sounds defiant but really, in this state the POs are taught to be enabling idiots. If a kid held a knife to them, what would they do? Then why do they expect a parent whose had this happen to let a PO treat them like the parent is the one on parole? And how can theypossibly be so blind not to see why the kid doesn't behave while on parole?</p><p></p><p>We only have about 3 group homes left in the state which are accessible for kids coming out of Department of Juvenile Justice and from what I've heard (albeit it was by Department of Juvenile Justice staff and POs) these are full of the absolute worst kids who can be released and not remain incarcerated due to extremely violent charges. No one wants difficult child in that but I also heard from last PO that Department of Juvenile Justice could have sent difficult child to the same Residential Treatment Center (RTC) I had been trying to get him in. That PO said he would look into it for a possible transitional place. That was the last time we talked- then this PO all of a sudden comes on board. And by the way- half the POs difficult child has ever had have been brand new. They just repeat what they are taught by the state.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 428339, member: 3699"] Ok, I'm back from the store and since I have a few responses already, I'll be brief in trying to respond to each one a little. So if I "sound" too brief, it's just because I'm trying to touch a little on each one. Yes, I'm keeping all correspondence- I even kept all correspondence from last place we lived and this has been going on 5-6 years now. DDD,. I agree- but [B][U]I[/U][/B] am going to get a light at the end of my tunnel no matter what difficult child and the juvenile courts decide to do at this point. Believe it or not, I had to remind the first PO "we" had in this town wwhat difficult child's committing offenses were (for first and second commitment) EVERY time I talked to him. Donna, I think you are right except one thing that is different in this state's Department of Juvenile Justice facilities, at least, is that they will lock an entire unit down if several get out of control- either in the unit or at school. They don't punish as severely for flooding but I have a feeling since difficult child busted that sprinkler head a couple of mos ago and has flooded before, he's pushed his limits too ffar this time. Utah- the fear (and real threat) in the past was difficult child being turned over to dss- long story I won't go into but a horrible thing to worry about in our specific case- but at his age now and given his committing offenses, I [I]think[/I] I can avoid an ultimatum in court by a judge saying "either I take difficult child home on parole or he goes to dss or I get found in contempt". At least I'll be pushing down the road like this won't happen until I'm sure otherwise- and have fought it in court. And then there is difficult child- who probably is resolved to keep himself incarcerated until he's 18yo (about 18 mos from now) unless he can come back and live with me on his terms- which isn't going to happen. I told last 2 POs that if I have to go to court and explain to the judge why, I will. I know this sounds defiant but really, in this state the POs are taught to be enabling idiots. If a kid held a knife to them, what would they do? Then why do they expect a parent whose had this happen to let a PO treat them like the parent is the one on parole? And how can theypossibly be so blind not to see why the kid doesn't behave while on parole? We only have about 3 group homes left in the state which are accessible for kids coming out of Department of Juvenile Justice and from what I've heard (albeit it was by Department of Juvenile Justice staff and POs) these are full of the absolute worst kids who can be released and not remain incarcerated due to extremely violent charges. No one wants difficult child in that but I also heard from last PO that Department of Juvenile Justice could have sent difficult child to the same Residential Treatment Center (RTC) I had been trying to get him in. That PO said he would look into it for a possible transitional place. That was the last time we talked- then this PO all of a sudden comes on board. And by the way- half the POs difficult child has ever had have been brand new. They just repeat what they are taught by the state. [/QUOTE]
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