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<blockquote data-quote="Marcie Mac" data-source="post: 358589" data-attributes="member: 47"><p>Step - I have gone thru the system with Danny years ago, and pretty much nothing has changed years later. Every time court rolled round (and there was a LOT of rolling back in the day), they did absolutely nothing cept to empower him to keep on keepin on. He once said to me, after I warned him about something, oh, they are not going to do **** (complete with a snap of his fingers when he was replying) After a while the paper trail caught up with him and they came down like a ton of bricks. And all during this time I was fighting to get some mental health going cause something was wrong besides ADHD, and it came out eventually that I was right. It was a LOT of aggrivation for something that if it was handled the first time in a correct manner we wouldn't have been carrying on for years back and forth. But that is how they roll, and as I have said before many times, court is PUNITIVE and they are NOT equipped and for the most part do NOT recognize any mental health issues in kids</p><p> </p><p>The ONLY way you can get any mental health help in the system is to play their game and go by their rules. Its black and white with no shades of "but". If its not on paper, it doesn't count as to who said what,why and when. Even saying that, judges, if they do any reading of a file, skim. Dan was in court on a probation violation because they found a drug in his system - it was his Ritalin - and when the judge ruled back to juvy, I stood up and said hey, thats not right. Judge looks at DA and PD and said does he take a RX? It was in his file, judge didn't know, one didn't think it was important and just wanted to get rid of him, and the other couldn't be bothered disputing any facts an I KNOW this was in the file - I documentated ad naseum, even down to someone passing gas, and judge ended up dismissing the case </p><p> </p><p>But I digress - you have to do everything the court orders, even when you know it is a hugh waste of time, energy and money - and then you get to document why its a hugh waste of time, energy and money after you do what you were ordered to do - if you fight them on stuff you are ordered to do but have refused to do, no matter how dumb you may think it is cause, after all, its not about you, you will lose and the kid loses as well. </p><p> </p><p>I totally understand K and it being the principal of the whole thing with this mental health evaluation, trust me, I do, but sometimes you just have to let stuff go so things can move in the direction you would like them to go. I did one, it was no big deal, irritating, yes, but I understood their need to "rule out mom" as the cause of difficult child going amuck, because they only have a one step at a time process </p><p> </p><p>Marcie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marcie Mac, post: 358589, member: 47"] Step - I have gone thru the system with Danny years ago, and pretty much nothing has changed years later. Every time court rolled round (and there was a LOT of rolling back in the day), they did absolutely nothing cept to empower him to keep on keepin on. He once said to me, after I warned him about something, oh, they are not going to do **** (complete with a snap of his fingers when he was replying) After a while the paper trail caught up with him and they came down like a ton of bricks. And all during this time I was fighting to get some mental health going cause something was wrong besides ADHD, and it came out eventually that I was right. It was a LOT of aggrivation for something that if it was handled the first time in a correct manner we wouldn't have been carrying on for years back and forth. But that is how they roll, and as I have said before many times, court is PUNITIVE and they are NOT equipped and for the most part do NOT recognize any mental health issues in kids The ONLY way you can get any mental health help in the system is to play their game and go by their rules. Its black and white with no shades of "but". If its not on paper, it doesn't count as to who said what,why and when. Even saying that, judges, if they do any reading of a file, skim. Dan was in court on a probation violation because they found a drug in his system - it was his Ritalin - and when the judge ruled back to juvy, I stood up and said hey, thats not right. Judge looks at DA and PD and said does he take a RX? It was in his file, judge didn't know, one didn't think it was important and just wanted to get rid of him, and the other couldn't be bothered disputing any facts an I KNOW this was in the file - I documentated ad naseum, even down to someone passing gas, and judge ended up dismissing the case But I digress - you have to do everything the court orders, even when you know it is a hugh waste of time, energy and money - and then you get to document why its a hugh waste of time, energy and money after you do what you were ordered to do - if you fight them on stuff you are ordered to do but have refused to do, no matter how dumb you may think it is cause, after all, its not about you, you will lose and the kid loses as well. I totally understand K and it being the principal of the whole thing with this mental health evaluation, trust me, I do, but sometimes you just have to let stuff go so things can move in the direction you would like them to go. I did one, it was no big deal, irritating, yes, but I understood their need to "rule out mom" as the cause of difficult child going amuck, because they only have a one step at a time process Marcie [/QUOTE]
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