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<blockquote data-quote="exhausted" data-source="post: 516735" data-attributes="member: 11001"><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000">Stimulants work for many people who do not have ADD or ADHD. And many people with ADD/ADHD do not benefit from stimulants and have to use a different class of drugs. I don't think any doctor would think giving a drug trial as a way to diagnose an illness or disorder.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000">As you know Malika, my son took Ritalin for many years. We had no problems except that he was so quiet verbally when the medication was in effect. He is a huge kid so it did not stunt his growth. He ate well so his appetite did not shut down as it does for some. While I do believe we have to be careful with medications and weigh the cost+benefits, <strong>I think it is unrealistic to take a stand against anything in the blanket sense.</strong> Sometimes the side effects are worth the use of the medication. It should all be case by case. Every human is different. For my daughter, we have gained almost no good effects with drugs only adverse-but we gave it try because we are committed to relieving her suffering.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000">I have a very rare form of RA called Palindromic RA, which often morphs into regular joint damaging RA after years. It is incredibly painful (most painful form) and when it sets in it affects the large joints to the point that I cannot stand up or walk if it is my hip or leg. Cannot move my arm etc. I cannot function let alone sleep. The pain is so intense, I cannot relieve it with any OTC , herbal, or natural method. I tried everything, even went to a holistic doctor. In the end he told me that I would need traditional medications. Talk about scary. They use DMARDS-which can shut down your immune system and leave you open to serious infections (I work in a germ factory as a teacher so no thanks). They use anti cancers-made me violently ill. And finally I went with steroids and Tramadol. Both these medications have major bad press, yet I only take them when I feel an episode come on and they work. They let me function! I don't have to take something every day and the side effects and risk are worth it to me because I cannot take the intense pain for days at a time, nor miss work.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000">I have asked my boy if he resents us for medicating him. His response is that he would have not gotten through school and he thinks he is doing well today as a result. Mind you we did many other things as well-behavior mod., counseling, good parenting, lots of activities, biofeedback and even mind/body work. We have done all kinds of things for difficult child as well.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000">There is a pervasive fear and ignorance about "RX drugs" out there that has been pushed forward by anti-pharmaceutical factions. Yes there are problems with the drug companies and the regulating bodies. Some drugs are really scary and the side effects as bad as the benefit for <u>some</u> people. However, what gets me the most is people who swear by natural treatments for depression and so on....guess what? They are made from some of the same plants/chemicals that the RX stuff is made from and it is not regulated. You have no idea what you are getting in terms of active ingredient potency unless you are using them under a trained doctor. I got very sick on one brand of a natural inflammatory with bromelien (a pineapple derivative). Found out from the holistic doctor. that is was a brand that he did not use or would recommend!</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000">Mental illness and neurological problems are diseases and disorders. I think it is medical neglect not to treat them in some way <strong>(I didn't say treat with medication as a blanket, though for some it is the only option) </strong>For some (ADHD, Bipolar, etc.), we have some very good treatment options. There are some things out there with scientific backing that are not even drugs. Try some other options for J before you go to the drug place and see what affects you get. He is young. What have you tried so far? I'm sorry I have not read all the posts so I may have missed this.</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="exhausted, post: 516735, member: 11001"] [SIZE=1][FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000]Stimulants work for many people who do not have ADD or ADHD. And many people with ADD/ADHD do not benefit from stimulants and have to use a different class of drugs. I don't think any doctor would think giving a drug trial as a way to diagnose an illness or disorder. As you know Malika, my son took Ritalin for many years. We had no problems except that he was so quiet verbally when the medication was in effect. He is a huge kid so it did not stunt his growth. He ate well so his appetite did not shut down as it does for some. While I do believe we have to be careful with medications and weigh the cost+benefits, [B]I think it is unrealistic to take a stand against anything in the blanket sense.[/B] Sometimes the side effects are worth the use of the medication. It should all be case by case. Every human is different. For my daughter, we have gained almost no good effects with drugs only adverse-but we gave it try because we are committed to relieving her suffering. I have a very rare form of RA called Palindromic RA, which often morphs into regular joint damaging RA after years. It is incredibly painful (most painful form) and when it sets in it affects the large joints to the point that I cannot stand up or walk if it is my hip or leg. Cannot move my arm etc. I cannot function let alone sleep. The pain is so intense, I cannot relieve it with any OTC , herbal, or natural method. I tried everything, even went to a holistic doctor. In the end he told me that I would need traditional medications. Talk about scary. They use DMARDS-which can shut down your immune system and leave you open to serious infections (I work in a germ factory as a teacher so no thanks). They use anti cancers-made me violently ill. And finally I went with steroids and Tramadol. Both these medications have major bad press, yet I only take them when I feel an episode come on and they work. They let me function! I don't have to take something every day and the side effects and risk are worth it to me because I cannot take the intense pain for days at a time, nor miss work. I have asked my boy if he resents us for medicating him. His response is that he would have not gotten through school and he thinks he is doing well today as a result. Mind you we did many other things as well-behavior mod., counseling, good parenting, lots of activities, biofeedback and even mind/body work. We have done all kinds of things for difficult child as well. There is a pervasive fear and ignorance about "RX drugs" out there that has been pushed forward by anti-pharmaceutical factions. Yes there are problems with the drug companies and the regulating bodies. Some drugs are really scary and the side effects as bad as the benefit for [U]some[/U] people. However, what gets me the most is people who swear by natural treatments for depression and so on....guess what? They are made from some of the same plants/chemicals that the RX stuff is made from and it is not regulated. You have no idea what you are getting in terms of active ingredient potency unless you are using them under a trained doctor. I got very sick on one brand of a natural inflammatory with bromelien (a pineapple derivative). Found out from the holistic doctor. that is was a brand that he did not use or would recommend! Mental illness and neurological problems are diseases and disorders. I think it is medical neglect not to treat them in some way [B](I didn't say treat with medication as a blanket, though for some it is the only option) [/B]For some (ADHD, Bipolar, etc.), we have some very good treatment options. There are some things out there with scientific backing that are not even drugs. Try some other options for J before you go to the drug place and see what affects you get. He is young. What have you tried so far? I'm sorry I have not read all the posts so I may have missed this.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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