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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 550188" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>Have to disagree. Of course it may be cultural but at least here it is total myth that those who are really going to commit suicide are not talking about it. Most people committing suicide talk about it beforehand and we are very strongly encourage to take all talk about suicide very serious by professionals. We tend to have much more suicides than you do and at least here it is considered a very dangerous myth that those really planning to commit suicide wouldn't talk about it. Most do, around 60 % of men and almost all women who commit suicide did talk about it beforehand. Of course many who talk about suicide don't even attempt and only 10 % of those who do make an suicide attempt commit suicide after failed attempt (despite the treatment) and only every third person who commits suicide has at least one failed attempt before it but still talk about suicides and suicide attempts are clear sign of being in high risk for suicide.</p><p></p><p>This figures are from our stats and as said, we have much more suicides than you, almost a double I think, so they may be different also on other matters, but still I would be vary on counting to the myth that those talking about it won't do it. Our figures used to be even worse 20 years ago. Suicides have come down over 30 % in that time after these kinds of myths have been dispelled.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 550188, member: 14557"] Have to disagree. Of course it may be cultural but at least here it is total myth that those who are really going to commit suicide are not talking about it. Most people committing suicide talk about it beforehand and we are very strongly encourage to take all talk about suicide very serious by professionals. We tend to have much more suicides than you do and at least here it is considered a very dangerous myth that those really planning to commit suicide wouldn't talk about it. Most do, around 60 % of men and almost all women who commit suicide did talk about it beforehand. Of course many who talk about suicide don't even attempt and only 10 % of those who do make an suicide attempt commit suicide after failed attempt (despite the treatment) and only every third person who commits suicide has at least one failed attempt before it but still talk about suicides and suicide attempts are clear sign of being in high risk for suicide. This figures are from our stats and as said, we have much more suicides than you, almost a double I think, so they may be different also on other matters, but still I would be vary on counting to the myth that those talking about it won't do it. Our figures used to be even worse 20 years ago. Suicides have come down over 30 % in that time after these kinds of myths have been dispelled. [/QUOTE]
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