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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 361037" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>ALWAYS document. But what you have written to us here should be sufficient in this situation.</p><p></p><p>As for the apparent conflict between what you recall MST guy saying, and what this guy says the MST would not have said - this bloke is not going to pat you on the head and say, "Of course you are right," with everything. He has to show some level of professional solidarity, wherever there is any element of possible misunderstanding. But what this bloke tells you about MST guy, and what he is thinking privately, will not be the same things. </p><p></p><p>You told this guy some of the things that have been happening to you. No wonder you came across as paranoid - they WERE out to get you! The thing is, you have now been told that events as you recall them, were inappropriate and, according to what you recall, you did the right things.</p><p></p><p>Yes, the MST guy is going to lie about what he said to you. Will this new bloke believe him? Maybe. Maybe not. Will this new bloke admit to you if he doesn't believe MST guy? Nope.</p><p></p><p>I am so glad you've finally done this, klmno. I've been in the same situation (sort-of) and I charged in and faced it head on, and gazumped the cynics by producing a report that cleared me. At the same time I saw others who would run to avoid any hint of "we need you to be assessed psychologically" or "We feel you need to see a psychiatrist to make sure you are OK," and who therefore cut themselves off from a lot of vital help, because it came with a psychiatric assessment string attached. I remember saying to these people, "Get the assessment done, get the clean bill of mental health (or at least the 'it's not relevant to this issue' bill of mental health) and then you can move on to the physical treatment you need."</p><p>In one case at least, someone died in their desperation to avoid any psychiatric assessment. From what I knew of the situation - the psychiatrist would have done one assessment then moved on. But the person was afraid that the shrink would divert the patient away from the vitally-needed medical interventions but in avoiding the shrink, the patient was then cut off form the medical interventions anyway. Very tragic.</p><p></p><p>I was in a situation where, after I'd seen the shrink who had said to me, "Yes, you've had depression in the past but you dealt with it. You currently are coping well with a difficult situation and don't need my help," I still had nasty scepticism from my son's specialist. My son's doctor actually said to me, "You managed to fool the psychiatrist - that just shows how sick you really are."</p><p>I worked out afterwards - my son's doctor was trying to play psychiatrist with me, he felt I did not express anger (because I was deliberately holding it in; I knew if I exploded he would label me as unstable and dangerous). So he was trying to make me angry, and I was refusing to play his game. Once I realised this, I moved on. With hindsight, i should have had him dragged before the medical board first, and struck off for inappropriate practice. But then - it would have taken up my time and energy when we really needed to put the whole unpleasant trauma behind us.</p><p></p><p>In your case - you have PTSD mixed up in there, tangled with this mess. I had the PTSD (later on) but not linked to the other issues, thank goodness. So it didn't muddy the waters for me.</p><p></p><p>This won't be fully over, not for a while. You may find some individuals in the court system try to challenge or overturn this assessment. But if you have kept this guy's phone number, use him again if you need this clarified or verified. Play the game by their rules, but play the game aggressively to get what you want.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 361037, member: 1991"] ALWAYS document. But what you have written to us here should be sufficient in this situation. As for the apparent conflict between what you recall MST guy saying, and what this guy says the MST would not have said - this bloke is not going to pat you on the head and say, "Of course you are right," with everything. He has to show some level of professional solidarity, wherever there is any element of possible misunderstanding. But what this bloke tells you about MST guy, and what he is thinking privately, will not be the same things. You told this guy some of the things that have been happening to you. No wonder you came across as paranoid - they WERE out to get you! The thing is, you have now been told that events as you recall them, were inappropriate and, according to what you recall, you did the right things. Yes, the MST guy is going to lie about what he said to you. Will this new bloke believe him? Maybe. Maybe not. Will this new bloke admit to you if he doesn't believe MST guy? Nope. I am so glad you've finally done this, klmno. I've been in the same situation (sort-of) and I charged in and faced it head on, and gazumped the cynics by producing a report that cleared me. At the same time I saw others who would run to avoid any hint of "we need you to be assessed psychologically" or "We feel you need to see a psychiatrist to make sure you are OK," and who therefore cut themselves off from a lot of vital help, because it came with a psychiatric assessment string attached. I remember saying to these people, "Get the assessment done, get the clean bill of mental health (or at least the 'it's not relevant to this issue' bill of mental health) and then you can move on to the physical treatment you need." In one case at least, someone died in their desperation to avoid any psychiatric assessment. From what I knew of the situation - the psychiatrist would have done one assessment then moved on. But the person was afraid that the shrink would divert the patient away from the vitally-needed medical interventions but in avoiding the shrink, the patient was then cut off form the medical interventions anyway. Very tragic. I was in a situation where, after I'd seen the shrink who had said to me, "Yes, you've had depression in the past but you dealt with it. You currently are coping well with a difficult situation and don't need my help," I still had nasty scepticism from my son's specialist. My son's doctor actually said to me, "You managed to fool the psychiatrist - that just shows how sick you really are." I worked out afterwards - my son's doctor was trying to play psychiatrist with me, he felt I did not express anger (because I was deliberately holding it in; I knew if I exploded he would label me as unstable and dangerous). So he was trying to make me angry, and I was refusing to play his game. Once I realised this, I moved on. With hindsight, i should have had him dragged before the medical board first, and struck off for inappropriate practice. But then - it would have taken up my time and energy when we really needed to put the whole unpleasant trauma behind us. In your case - you have PTSD mixed up in there, tangled with this mess. I had the PTSD (later on) but not linked to the other issues, thank goodness. So it didn't muddy the waters for me. This won't be fully over, not for a while. You may find some individuals in the court system try to challenge or overturn this assessment. But if you have kept this guy's phone number, use him again if you need this clarified or verified. Play the game by their rules, but play the game aggressively to get what you want. Marg [/QUOTE]
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