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<blockquote data-quote="Mikey" data-source="post: 88231" data-attributes="member: 3579"><p>ck1, re: <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have a question...if you had an employee reporting to you who wasn't doing a good job. He was coming in late, not doing what was expected of him, bad attitude, etc. would you fire him? Yes!!! but would you fire him now and tell him it will be effective three to four months from now??? </div></div></p><p></p><p>No, not if I was truly "the boss". But I'm not. And I can tell you that I have been an IT manager/director at several companies, and at every place I've worked there's always been that "one" person. You know, the one who can't do a good job, doesn't want to do a good job, but has an "in" with the owner/executive floor/whatever?</p><p></p><p>Every place I've worked, there's been at least one person that I felt had to go, but I was overruled by MY bosses. "Give him another chance", or "he's having a rough time - don't be so hard on him", or my personal favorite "he's been here forever, and he doesn't deserve to be let go simply because he can't get along with YOU".</p><p></p><p>I understand your analogy, but I humbly suggest that it isn't accurate in my home life, and in fact hasn't been accurate in my career as a manager, either. I understand what you're saying, though. If only it were as easy as "putting my foot down" and doing what was best for the family.</p><p></p><p>And I've actually tried to do what your husband did, i.e. "bring the bottom up to McWeedy" (I absolutely LOVE that analogy - do you mind if I steal it in other posts? :wink: ) Unfortunately, most of the rest of the family sees it as me going Gestapo on McWeedy, and they don't understand the need to draw such a firm line and have consequences (never mind that McWeedy's been given several "soft" demands that he was never able to meet).</p><p></p><p>Other than Sarge (who could easily make it on his own as a college student in a dorm), at this point I'm starting to feel like the odd man out, and putting my foot down only reinforces that schism. Not sure where it'll end up, but that's where it is for now. </p><p></p><p>I sincerely appreciate your response, though. Thank you for taking the time.</p><p></p><p>Mikey</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikey, post: 88231, member: 3579"] ck1, re: <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have a question...if you had an employee reporting to you who wasn't doing a good job. He was coming in late, not doing what was expected of him, bad attitude, etc. would you fire him? Yes!!! but would you fire him now and tell him it will be effective three to four months from now??? </div></div> No, not if I was truly "the boss". But I'm not. And I can tell you that I have been an IT manager/director at several companies, and at every place I've worked there's always been that "one" person. You know, the one who can't do a good job, doesn't want to do a good job, but has an "in" with the owner/executive floor/whatever? Every place I've worked, there's been at least one person that I felt had to go, but I was overruled by MY bosses. "Give him another chance", or "he's having a rough time - don't be so hard on him", or my personal favorite "he's been here forever, and he doesn't deserve to be let go simply because he can't get along with YOU". I understand your analogy, but I humbly suggest that it isn't accurate in my home life, and in fact hasn't been accurate in my career as a manager, either. I understand what you're saying, though. If only it were as easy as "putting my foot down" and doing what was best for the family. And I've actually tried to do what your husband did, i.e. "bring the bottom up to McWeedy" (I absolutely LOVE that analogy - do you mind if I steal it in other posts? [img]:wink:[/img] ) Unfortunately, most of the rest of the family sees it as me going Gestapo on McWeedy, and they don't understand the need to draw such a firm line and have consequences (never mind that McWeedy's been given several "soft" demands that he was never able to meet). Other than Sarge (who could easily make it on his own as a college student in a dorm), at this point I'm starting to feel like the odd man out, and putting my foot down only reinforces that schism. Not sure where it'll end up, but that's where it is for now. I sincerely appreciate your response, though. Thank you for taking the time. Mikey [/QUOTE]
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