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<blockquote data-quote="dreamer" data-source="post: 137127" data-attributes="member: 1697"><p>regarding availability of tdocs and psychiatrists? IN some areas it is still quite difficult to find ANY therapist or psychiatrist at all, no matter what kind of insurance you have or do not have or whether the todc/psychiatrist is good or not. </p><p>For quite awhile in my county, the wait lists go be seen first time, IF you were discharged from inpatient psychiatric hospital- the wait list could be as long as a year, if you had NOT been inpatient, the wit list could be longer. </p><p>Our county mental health agency, were the largest majority of patients are seen went 11 months with NO psychiatrist at all, acquired a psychiatrist, she lasted less than 2 months, and they went without a psychiatrist for another 3 months after that. Same facility has dozens of tdocs.a day treatment, a partial hospital, a substance abuse program, and handles ALL court ordered psychiatric issues here. </p><p>And as far as Medicaide goes here? What a joke, a very bad joke. I have been working with DHS for 18 months seeking ANY type of doctor at all for my difficult child- with NO luck. No psychiatrist, no therapist, no GP, no gyne.....When we leave our immediate area and head to the city? (several hours way) they tell us nope you are not in our service area. You do not have an address in our county. </p><p>Some areas do have good acceptance of Medicaide, but some areas do not. and some areas do have choices and options for child psychiatrists but some have a severe shortage of child psychiatrists. </p><p></p><p>As for fight or flight? This is a normal survival thing leftover from more primitive times. SOme people have a more easily switched on fight or flight reflex. In primitive times it was very useful and saved persons lives literally. Once you cross over into true fight or flight, certain changes do occur in the body, and a person in true fight or flight is not readily available for discussion of their actions. Literally their brain is not available for reasoning with or explanation or conversation at all. They are in the most pure form of literal true survival and while they can phsyically perform some very amazing feats- you are not going to be able to have a conversation or try to reason with them or have them see logic. It is interesting to google it and read about it in depth. It can help you understand the intensity of it better. The key is to help a person not go into fight or flight in the first place. Once engaged in fight or flight, you are only going to increase the fight or flight by interfereing. </p><p>Yes many people have overly sensitive fight or flight. Yes it is a serious problem. Yes it does burn out on it's own, it is not a state a body can remain in indefinetly. It can be useful to understand what REAL fight or flight is, how you can distinguish it, becuz trying to accomplish anything when the person is in real and true fight or flight is impossible. All you can do at that point is work to keep people safe with actions. Talking usually does not register in the affected person. And handling that person further increases the fight or flight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer, post: 137127, member: 1697"] regarding availability of tdocs and psychiatrists? IN some areas it is still quite difficult to find ANY therapist or psychiatrist at all, no matter what kind of insurance you have or do not have or whether the todc/psychiatrist is good or not. For quite awhile in my county, the wait lists go be seen first time, IF you were discharged from inpatient psychiatric hospital- the wait list could be as long as a year, if you had NOT been inpatient, the wit list could be longer. Our county mental health agency, were the largest majority of patients are seen went 11 months with NO psychiatrist at all, acquired a psychiatrist, she lasted less than 2 months, and they went without a psychiatrist for another 3 months after that. Same facility has dozens of tdocs.a day treatment, a partial hospital, a substance abuse program, and handles ALL court ordered psychiatric issues here. And as far as Medicaide goes here? What a joke, a very bad joke. I have been working with DHS for 18 months seeking ANY type of doctor at all for my difficult child- with NO luck. No psychiatrist, no therapist, no GP, no gyne.....When we leave our immediate area and head to the city? (several hours way) they tell us nope you are not in our service area. You do not have an address in our county. Some areas do have good acceptance of Medicaide, but some areas do not. and some areas do have choices and options for child psychiatrists but some have a severe shortage of child psychiatrists. As for fight or flight? This is a normal survival thing leftover from more primitive times. SOme people have a more easily switched on fight or flight reflex. In primitive times it was very useful and saved persons lives literally. Once you cross over into true fight or flight, certain changes do occur in the body, and a person in true fight or flight is not readily available for discussion of their actions. Literally their brain is not available for reasoning with or explanation or conversation at all. They are in the most pure form of literal true survival and while they can phsyically perform some very amazing feats- you are not going to be able to have a conversation or try to reason with them or have them see logic. It is interesting to google it and read about it in depth. It can help you understand the intensity of it better. The key is to help a person not go into fight or flight in the first place. Once engaged in fight or flight, you are only going to increase the fight or flight by interfereing. Yes many people have overly sensitive fight or flight. Yes it is a serious problem. Yes it does burn out on it's own, it is not a state a body can remain in indefinetly. It can be useful to understand what REAL fight or flight is, how you can distinguish it, becuz trying to accomplish anything when the person is in real and true fight or flight is impossible. All you can do at that point is work to keep people safe with actions. Talking usually does not register in the affected person. And handling that person further increases the fight or flight. [/QUOTE]
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