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<blockquote data-quote="Mikey" data-source="post: 34909" data-attributes="member: 3579"><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ephchap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mikey,</p><p></p><p>When we "forced" the issue (forcing inpatient treatment since we would not allow him in our home if he was drugging), he lost all contact with his drugging friends. By the time he came home 10 months later, they had all moved on (not away, just moved onto other places, people, drugs, whatever).</p><p></p><p>You can't force your son to make new friends, but I still argue that you can force the issue of no drugs while living in the home, or force the inpatient. He then has no choice - homeless or residential treatment. </p><p></p><p>We'll just have to agree to disagree. The difference is, I've been where you are and have come out the other side.</p><p></p><p>Deb </div></div></p><p></p><p>Thanks Deb. We don't disagree - inpatient is still an option if he starts to go south again. Right now, though, his doctor, wife and I want to see if we can ween him away from that lifestyle in a way that he's willing to participate in. Better chance for long-term success if he actively engages (even if it takes a bit longer, and is a bit more painful for us). If he doesn't participate, fails to continue making progress (or starts to slip), then the big guns are still there - we have a little time yet for that.</p><p></p><p>Also, I watched a podcast last night from the HBO series "Addiction". It was an interview with a Dr. Volklow (sp?), who's head of the federal drug policy task force (I think). Her perspective on teen addiction and treatment was pretty clear: parents who get fed up and force their kids out of the house may actually be putting their kids in more danger (her opinion - not endorsing it nor am I questioning other parent's decisions in this matter).</p><p></p><p>She also went on to say that the notion that inpatient treatment will only work if the addict "wants" to recover has been disproven (with some caveats). Involuntary "committment" to a Residential Treatment Center (RTC) <strong>does</strong> work, as long as (a) it's long enough (at least 90 days), (b) has a strong follow-up outpatient program, and (c) the underlying environment (i.e. the family) is <strong>also</strong> treated, since many of the underlying reasons teens start using is because of family problems - don't fix the family, then the teen will relapse if he/she goes right back into the same situation.</p><p></p><p>With all that said, if things got bad I wouldn't ever give my son the option to move out or go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC). At that point, I'd simply send him against his will. I'm not disparaging anyone elses choices with their kids. All I'm saying is that forcing him to either go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC) or move out isn't an option for us, right now.</p><p></p><p>So, I'm not disagreeing with you - we're just not at that point yet, and we're still not convinced that the pot is the major issue. However, if it gets any worse, i.e. bad to the point that it's interfering with his "recovery" in the other areas where he truly needs help, then involuntary Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is definitely in the cards.</p><p></p><p>I do appreciate your thoughts and comments, and would like thank you for the time you take to post them here. And thanks so much for your insight. It really does help, even if I <em>am</em> intractible.</p><p></p><p> :smile: </p><p></p><p>Mikey</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikey, post: 34909, member: 3579"] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ephchap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mikey, When we "forced" the issue (forcing inpatient treatment since we would not allow him in our home if he was drugging), he lost all contact with his drugging friends. By the time he came home 10 months later, they had all moved on (not away, just moved onto other places, people, drugs, whatever). You can't force your son to make new friends, but I still argue that you can force the issue of no drugs while living in the home, or force the inpatient. He then has no choice - homeless or residential treatment. We'll just have to agree to disagree. The difference is, I've been where you are and have come out the other side. Deb </div></div> Thanks Deb. We don't disagree - inpatient is still an option if he starts to go south again. Right now, though, his doctor, wife and I want to see if we can ween him away from that lifestyle in a way that he's willing to participate in. Better chance for long-term success if he actively engages (even if it takes a bit longer, and is a bit more painful for us). If he doesn't participate, fails to continue making progress (or starts to slip), then the big guns are still there - we have a little time yet for that. Also, I watched a podcast last night from the HBO series "Addiction". It was an interview with a Dr. Volklow (sp?), who's head of the federal drug policy task force (I think). Her perspective on teen addiction and treatment was pretty clear: parents who get fed up and force their kids out of the house may actually be putting their kids in more danger (her opinion - not endorsing it nor am I questioning other parent's decisions in this matter). She also went on to say that the notion that inpatient treatment will only work if the addict "wants" to recover has been disproven (with some caveats). Involuntary "committment" to a Residential Treatment Center (RTC) [b]does[/b] work, as long as (a) it's long enough (at least 90 days), (b) has a strong follow-up outpatient program, and (c) the underlying environment (i.e. the family) is [b]also[/b] treated, since many of the underlying reasons teens start using is because of family problems - don't fix the family, then the teen will relapse if he/she goes right back into the same situation. With all that said, if things got bad I wouldn't ever give my son the option to move out or go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC). At that point, I'd simply send him against his will. I'm not disparaging anyone elses choices with their kids. All I'm saying is that forcing him to either go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC) or move out isn't an option for us, right now. So, I'm not disagreeing with you - we're just not at that point yet, and we're still not convinced that the pot is the major issue. However, if it gets any worse, i.e. bad to the point that it's interfering with his "recovery" in the other areas where he truly needs help, then involuntary Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is definitely in the cards. I do appreciate your thoughts and comments, and would like thank you for the time you take to post them here. And thanks so much for your insight. It really does help, even if I [i]am[/i] intractible. [img]:smile:[/img] Mikey [/QUOTE]
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