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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 235171" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>BBK: That is so sweet- thank you!</p><p></p><p>Andy: My son has been in the county detention center twice which is used for short term stays. I have not been billed. He is already on a suspended sentence to be turned over to state Department of Juvenile Justice, which would place him in a different detention center (basicly, it is juvenile prison). I don't know if they bill parents or not. I think it is up to each jurisdiction. </p><p></p><p>I should point out that the "crime spree" that lead him to be in all this trouble was shortly after a doubling of his prozac dosage and is partly what lead to his diagnosis changing from unipolar depression to bipolar. (Att least he experiences mood cycling, whether true BiPolar (BP) or not) The psychiatrist wrote a letter to that effect and it was presented to the judge. It did not matter- he was convicted anyway, however, he was given a suspended sentence so he could come home and receive mental health treatment. I don't think the PO understands that mental issues really exist- I think she believes kids and parents are really in control of it all. In any case, my son has not gotten further legal charges and the PO does not know about the knives- she only knows that he was hospitalized in Dec for sel-injurous behavior and this time for becoming agressive with me. She doesn't care- she's happy that he didn't commit a crime (as in- out in the community) so I am of the position that he needs more mental health treatment now and should not have his suspended sentence revoked because he did not go out in the community and commit another crime. She is of the position that the county isn't going to pay for him to get anything more. But, the county hasn't paid for ANY of this.</p><p></p><p>LDM: I am heearing that the cuts in funding in our state for mental health treatment are just making an already bad situation almost impossible. I was shocked to hear about so much cut in this area because I thought our governor had made such a public issue about mental health treatment being needed for thos involved in the corrections systems. Apparently, that was osmehwat of a "show" to justify putting all people with cases like this is the corrections depts. then claiming that they are getting their treatment there, which of course is a joke. When my son was in detention, they gave him wrong dosages half the time and I've heard of kids getting the wrongs medications altogether sometimes, too.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for reminding me about the new court that they are trying to establish- it might not hurt for me to bring up that just because it isn't established yet, doesn't mean my son should be punished more for being BiPolar (BP).</p><p></p><p>Truthfully, my feeling is that he should feel some sting for his actions with the knives. But, being put into state juvy where he gets basicly no mental health treatment and they are violent and sexually assault each other and have their futures seriously damaged is too extreme. I think a few months in an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) working toward therapuetic goals and having extensive services set in place upon return to home not only serves as consequences but also provides mental health treatment.</p><p></p><p>I don't feel like I'm asking for anything unreasonable from the county. What would they have in my son 1 or 2 years from now if he spent that time in juvy, then released him? What will they have in him if he gets more extensive services? At least, which option provides the best odds of him turning things around?</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, Residential Treatment Center (RTC) would be funded partly by sd, pratly by medicaid or other county funds, and possibly partly by my insurance. I don't feel bad about taking it. We have never had to request or be on any public assistance before and I am only asking now because I have depleted everything I have over all this. A lot of it has cost me twice as much because of things the GAL did and she didn't do what she was assigned to do- which was to help difficult child get more help. Plus, if the sd had done their job and raised a flag, told me what was going on, and paid attention and taken appropritate action when difficult child was sitting in class picking at himself until he bled, staring at the wall, and doing other things that indicated depression (or at least mental anguish) instead of writing him up for it and calling me to complain about him being a behavior problem for doing things like this, they might not be faced with paying for more now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 235171, member: 3699"] BBK: That is so sweet- thank you! Andy: My son has been in the county detention center twice which is used for short term stays. I have not been billed. He is already on a suspended sentence to be turned over to state Department of Juvenile Justice, which would place him in a different detention center (basicly, it is juvenile prison). I don't know if they bill parents or not. I think it is up to each jurisdiction. I should point out that the "crime spree" that lead him to be in all this trouble was shortly after a doubling of his prozac dosage and is partly what lead to his diagnosis changing from unipolar depression to bipolar. (Att least he experiences mood cycling, whether true BiPolar (BP) or not) The psychiatrist wrote a letter to that effect and it was presented to the judge. It did not matter- he was convicted anyway, however, he was given a suspended sentence so he could come home and receive mental health treatment. I don't think the PO understands that mental issues really exist- I think she believes kids and parents are really in control of it all. In any case, my son has not gotten further legal charges and the PO does not know about the knives- she only knows that he was hospitalized in Dec for sel-injurous behavior and this time for becoming agressive with me. She doesn't care- she's happy that he didn't commit a crime (as in- out in the community) so I am of the position that he needs more mental health treatment now and should not have his suspended sentence revoked because he did not go out in the community and commit another crime. She is of the position that the county isn't going to pay for him to get anything more. But, the county hasn't paid for ANY of this. LDM: I am heearing that the cuts in funding in our state for mental health treatment are just making an already bad situation almost impossible. I was shocked to hear about so much cut in this area because I thought our governor had made such a public issue about mental health treatment being needed for thos involved in the corrections systems. Apparently, that was osmehwat of a "show" to justify putting all people with cases like this is the corrections depts. then claiming that they are getting their treatment there, which of course is a joke. When my son was in detention, they gave him wrong dosages half the time and I've heard of kids getting the wrongs medications altogether sometimes, too. Thank you for reminding me about the new court that they are trying to establish- it might not hurt for me to bring up that just because it isn't established yet, doesn't mean my son should be punished more for being BiPolar (BP). Truthfully, my feeling is that he should feel some sting for his actions with the knives. But, being put into state juvy where he gets basicly no mental health treatment and they are violent and sexually assault each other and have their futures seriously damaged is too extreme. I think a few months in an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) working toward therapuetic goals and having extensive services set in place upon return to home not only serves as consequences but also provides mental health treatment. I don't feel like I'm asking for anything unreasonable from the county. What would they have in my son 1 or 2 years from now if he spent that time in juvy, then released him? What will they have in him if he gets more extensive services? At least, which option provides the best odds of him turning things around? Furthermore, Residential Treatment Center (RTC) would be funded partly by sd, pratly by medicaid or other county funds, and possibly partly by my insurance. I don't feel bad about taking it. We have never had to request or be on any public assistance before and I am only asking now because I have depleted everything I have over all this. A lot of it has cost me twice as much because of things the GAL did and she didn't do what she was assigned to do- which was to help difficult child get more help. Plus, if the sd had done their job and raised a flag, told me what was going on, and paid attention and taken appropritate action when difficult child was sitting in class picking at himself until he bled, staring at the wall, and doing other things that indicated depression (or at least mental anguish) instead of writing him up for it and calling me to complain about him being a behavior problem for doing things like this, they might not be faced with paying for more now. [/QUOTE]
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