Bro moved in with Mom when he lost his job and his relationship with his girlfriend broke up. I'm guessing bro's youngest daughter, Stormy (a major difficult child), played a big role in that break up......although bro would never admit it, not even to himself. Bro gained custody (finally) of Stormy at the age of about 11 or 12, she is now 14 going on 15. She is diagnosed ADHD, but while she *might* have it, Borderline is clearly evident (it all but screams at you) and ODD is in the mix too......how she has skipped being diagnosed with either is anyone's guess except she has manipulation down to a fine art. Bro's ex is an extremely negligent and abusive parent. I have no doubt that up until the point where bro finally got custody of Stormy the child lived a nightmare. The stories bro's two older kids tell are enough to give a person nightmares, and they lived alone with their mom only for a few years before being old enough to leave home, which they did immediately. Bro is a trucker and most of the abuse took place when he was on the road. It took him literally years to "get" that it was going on, with his kids telling him, family telling him, friends telling him, and neighbors telling him. Even when he did finally get it, he was afraid to do anything about it for years because his now ex threatened he'd never see the kids again. (empty threat, her parents told bro they'd help him fight for custody) When he did finally leave, he left the kids behind. Hard to care for 3 kids when your life is on the road. But he never failed in his child support nor in keeping up with visitation, actually he went above and beyond in visitation and child support. Sad part is not one of these kids are even biologically his....he refuses to believe that either. But he does his best to be a good dad. Mom is no stranger to difficult children. She IS one. And she raised 4 of her own. Mom is a no nonsense parent. Rules are rules and they will be followed. Consequences are not pleasant to say the least, and she can get mighty creative when necessary. Stormy up until the age of 11/12 lived a life of no rules, as long as she stayed out of her mom and her mom's live in girlfriends way, everything was fine for the most part.....except when either woman was in a bad mood ect, or the sexual abuse (which bro still refuses to believe or have Stormy treated for) The child didn't even have a clue how to conduct herself with other people, let alone in a normal home setting. It has been a major battle of wills, but mom finally has her conforming to house rules, although Stormy hates her for it. Bro also isn't too pleased with Mom's strict house rules and having to live under them again. And although he's a good dad, he refuses to believe any bad behavior on Stormy's part unless it is totally in his face directed at him. And yes, this has created some issues, which for the most part mom has handled rather creatively. Not long after moving in bro did manage to get a job. And while boss promised he'd be home every night, he works 12-16 hrs per day 6 days per wk. Which leaves mom with his major difficult child 24/7 to deal with, get to school ect. Now Mom is 75. She's had cataract surgery. Multiple surgeries for glaucoma. She has stints in her heart. She's had both hips replaced. But she is far from helpless and does very well. She IS a difficult child herself. Paranoid schizophrenic. But episodes are usually only triggered during times of high stress and usually are only behaviors such as she thinks people sneak into her house and take things. Extremely high stress can make her dangerous, but I've only known that to happen a few times over her lifetime. Mostly she's a religious fanatic to the extreme who think people have nothing better to do than steal her towels. lol Basically harmless. Seems an incident happened several weeks back that is causing major issues. Mom took Stormy with her to drive the 2 blocks (literally around the corner) to my aunts house to pick up the newspaper. She reads my aunts paper so she doesn't have to pay for her own. As Mom was driving suddenly out of the blue Stormy starts screaming (and this kid can scream) that mom hit the ditch and lunges to grab the steering wheel. Now mom is suddenly trying to fight off a 14 yr old who is bigger than her who is screaming like a lunatic and keep control of the car........while telling the kid she did NOT hit the ditch (trust me she'd have known it if she had, I know that road) and to knock it off and get on her own side of the car. Stormy does not shut up about it. Mom gets to aunts house and sends stormy up for the paper because the kid has her shaking so bad she needs to collect herself for the drive home. Soon as Stormy sees my aunt she starts yelling how grandma hit the ditch and almost killed them yadda yadda full drama mode. Now aunt is no stranger to difficult children either and knows Stormy from her always being with mom and believed mom when mom told her the kid was nuts she did no such thing. So they start back home. Mind you this is 2 blocks in a quiet suburb mom has lived in for 20 plus yrs. On the way home again Stormy suddenly starts screaming that mom hit a car, lunges for the wheel (nearly sending them off the road), Mom finds herself fighting the kid off, there is NO car where Stormy claims mom supposedly hit it so Mom can't figure out what the hell the kid is talking about........Stormy is over the top drama and mom couldn't get into her drive fast enough. Out of the car the child is so into the drama and so LOUD that neighbors have come out to see what the issue is. So Mom points to where this car was she was supposed to have side swiped and asks them if there was a car parked there (because the spot is empty), since this is a neighbors car......neighbors tell her no it's been gone since that morning. Still the kid won't shut up. Bro comes out of the house to see what all the fuss is about. Stormy is all over him telling him first grandma ran them into the ditch on the way to aunts house then it the car on the way back and that she won't believe her! Mom told him the kid was nuts, she did no such thing. Neighbors did point out to him there had been no car parked where Stormy claimed Mom hit one. Bro points to mom's rear view mirror that is hanging loose. Mom tells him that means nothing it's been broken for months.....older bro had put it back on but it comes off once in a while as he keeps forgetting to finish it. To make it shorter. Bro believes Stormy over mom, regardless of what the neighbors tell him. (this is a pattern by the way) It just so happens older bro picks that time to stop by. Stormy is all over him telling him this wild tale. He laughs at her. Varifies the rear view mirror was already broken. Points out to younger bro all the neighbors are calling his kid a liar about this car mom hit. Even pointed out to him HAD mom hit a car she'd have paint and scratches on HER car, which there wasn't a mark. Younger bro still refuses to believe mom. Now, this remains a sore spot. I get my intolerance for lying from my mother. Bro is ticked off that mom is calling his daughter a liar even though evidence says she's lying.....so every time mom asks either one of them to do something, he makes snide remarks that undermine her authority (what little she'd managed to establish with the child) with Stormy. One day Mom let him have it over that nonsense. So he tells her he is not allowing Stormy to ride in her car anymore unless she gets a note from her doctor stating that it is safe for her to drive. He's probably lucky he's alive after such a comment. lol Since the day he's moved in Mom has been the primary caregiver of this difficult child. Not only normal daily care, but she has had to drive her 20 miles one way every day to care and groom her horses, drive her back to school for detention and tutoring and taking her to psychiatrist and therapist appointments and a zillion other things. Her entire days for months have been revolving around care of HIS kid, for FREE. Well, that was the straw. Mom can't tolerate a liar. But the fact that bro stood behind his lying kid and demanded a doctor note.....did it. For months Stormy has been doing little things and some big things to drive Mom nuts and just aggravate her because she doesn't like mom's strict rules........and she tells her dad that it's all in mom's head and he believes her because well, that's the way he is. But the car junk was just it. She told him she wanted Stormy out of her house immediately, period. She was done with the kid. He told her where Stormy goes, he goes.........and her reply was D@mn right! lol So he told her he was working on it. (darn slowly in my opinion, but he probably is to some degree) Mom told him that wasn't good enough. That never again would the child be there weekends, she didn't care where she went but it wouldn't be Mom's house. She wouldn't be there at any time as long as bro wasn't home. Well, now see, Mom has been his sitter all this time.......and Stormy can't be trusted alone for many many reasons.......so bro blew up at mom that she darn well would be allowed in the house when he wasn't there or else! And well, my mom just doesn't take that sort of crud well. So she told him to just try it. He'd find his kid standing on the porch in the freezing cold at midnight waiting for him to get inside. And if she tried to get inside, mom would call the cops on her fanny. Bro backed down, knowing our mother does not make empty threats and made arrangements that Stormy stay with older bro and his wife when he's not at home. (I bet they're just thrilled lol ) I admit I thought this was a bit over the top, not letting the kid into the house and all.........but I reserved judgement because I know mom has not told me all that the child has pulled on her, and I know she loves this kid and has done her best by her long before bro ever got custody so I figured if she'd reached that point it was for good reason. And yesterday when I talked to her.....she did finally explain why. After the car drama, mom is afraid to have the kid in the house alone with her in fear of what she'll either pull and blame on mom.....or what she'll make up about something mom supposedly did. And in that context, her demand is reasonable. Turns out that mom found out bro has been talking to sibs about how mom is at best senile, at worse just plain insane, and not capable of living alone anymore. This has mom highly stressed out and near panic. I know this is true because last time when he and Stormy brought her to visit he was talking that way and I shot him down. A while back he called me and started that nonsense and I shot him down. Due to my childhood with mom, I've developed a keen sense of when she's in one of her episodes, and I can pick up on it even over the phone. My radar has not gone off. I've spoken with her quite a bit over the past months.....and she sounds stressed but perfectly normal, other than the whole my kid and his daughter are trying to convince people I'm senile or nuts, which given that he is doing that, is reasonable. She is so panicked by it she went to her lawyer. He told her to throw bro and his brat out. lol So mom has finally agreed to give him a move out date that I've been telling her to do for months. Why this is a potential situation is that this bro is usually the one who looks after mom and helps her out. He's not normally like this when it comes to mom. It's because he refuses to believe the difficult child behavior of his kid. But sibs don't know this..........and odds are they're believing him, because after all he IS living with her, so who better to judge? Know what I mean?? Mom is terrified he's trying to get the other kids to help him get her declared incompetent and put into a nursing home, or worse committed. I don't know that is his goal......but if he's talking to the sibs the way he was talking to me it certainly sounds like it. And he did just a couple of years ago get our biodad declared incompetent and got him admitted to a nursing home. (which in my opinion is out of character for him too, and yeah Stormy was living with him then it wasn't too long after he got custody) Would sibs listen to me if I talked to them? Probably not. Due to the whole grandma basically raising me thing we've never been very close......and me moving here after marrying husband did nothing to help that. I honestly don't care for talking to them much because they still treat me like they did as a kid......like I'm stupid and incapable of doing anything. Yes, Mom is paranoid schizo. I find it ironic I've been telling them this since my early 20's and they refused to believe it. Only in the last decade has it sunk in or rather they've let themselves accept it. Mom refuses medications. But honestly doesn't do bad without them unless under stress. And even then it's just believing people are taking great pains to come in and steal her towels or some other silly thing. She has been dangerous on rare occasion but that only appears under extreme stress. (almost always directed at me specifically and once a cop) The vast majority of the time if you didn't live with her you'd never know she had the disorder. She's pretty functional. Mom is so panicked over this she plans to put the house up for sale in the spring and move out of state. Where, she's not sure. Sis has a room built especially for her in her new home in texas but mom hates texas. Mom likes Indianapolis......but other sis's family treat her as bad if not worse than Stormy. We've begged her to come here, so maybe this is where she'll wind up. But she also sobbed last time she visited and begged us to please come and see her this spring/summer. Now I understand what that was about. And yes, we've all made plans for a trip there as a family unit in June.......timed perfectly for my 30 yr hs reunion. Looks like we may be bringing her back with us. So, if sibs start this process............. I will do what I can to stop it. Mom is perfectly capable of living alone independently with minimal supervision. (same as anyone for her age) I will not let them railroad her into a nursing home at this stage. There is no reason for it. I don't know what bro's motivation for this is. Mom has offered him the house to rent so she could get out from under it and move away and he turned her down. So I'm thinking it's mostly because he is in denial about his daughter and her manipulative behavior ect. Which is a horrible shame because Stormy needs some serious therapy for the neglect / abuse she endured at the hands of her mother and is not getting it due to her father's denial of her need for it. She can be an awfully sweet kid who deep down just craves love and affection and acceptance.......but she can also be dangerous as hades with her so far passive aggression and manipulation. I saw that when she visited and she was only here 2 days! Yes, it was that bad. Everyone picks up on it except her dad. Everyone. So, at the moment, I'm the only one in my mom's corner and she is holding on to me for dear life. I don't know what I can do to stop my sibs should they start such a process, but I'll do whatever I can, even if it means moving her in here temporarily. Life sure is screwy. I hope bro moves out soon and that is the end of it. Then come spring Mom moves over here and that is that. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Any knowledge of how to stop such a process would be helpful too, just in case. Dunno if I could since it would be 4 against one.