We had a long day in Fargo today mostly in pouring down rain. One of our 1st stops was Gander Mountain. husband can spend an entire day in that store and still not be ready to leave. However, because of the rain and nothing in that area for me, difficult child and I decided to hang out at Gander Mountain.
To set the mood for the day: TIRED difficult child and I were both tired and the rain was not helping. We all know that is not a good way to start a day of errands.
difficult child was becoming disrespectful - calling me names, telling me he had to teach me whatever (I think I was too tired to understand that one), not listening. I told him I did not like his attitude toward me. Nothing major but something that needed to stop before it grew.
He was also complaining about not being able to ride bike far from home because I wouldn't be able to get hold of him. So, that brought about the insisting that we should buy him long range walkie talkies or a track phone because, "Mom, I am old enough for a cell phone"
After Gander Mountain, we headed to therapist appointment. I wrote on the form that he was refusing to do a math reassign this weekend because he wanted to wait until Monday's tutoring session and that he was disrespectful to me this morning. When husband and I joined the session, therapist discussed with us that difficult child should do the assignment to the best of his ability and then ask teacher if he could go over it that night with his tutor. He also stated that difficult child did not know what he had done to be disrespectful. He wondered if he did anything at Gander? When I told him what he had done, he denied it. "No, I did not. I don't remember that." We talked about it anyway. We also talked about him riding bike to a nearby gas station that requires him to cross a busy street (no crosswalks). I told therapist and difficult child that next Spring when the bike riding season starts up again, we can visit that issue and I can see difficult child having some bike priviledges with boundaries attached.
We then went to eat at a buffet. difficult child had a good sized meal. It was a very late lunch. If I had known Gander would take that long, we would have eaten instead but no one was hungry.
I gave difficult child some money and dropped them both off at Scheels while I went to Party City. I stopped at JoAnn's Fabric also and was gone about one hour.
When I returned to Scheels, I went in to find them. difficult child told me he was feeling very weird and had suicide thoughts. (I need to talk to him about his definition of the thoughts since I think based on his history they may be serious self harm thoughts.)
I reviewed the day's events in my head and determined he did not have a much fluids as normal so could be heading for dehydration. So I came home and started research on dehydration causing suicide thoughts (I know, this may have been crazy to even think about but it was the only thing different) but did not find anything concrete. Next I looked up Fluoxetine Withdrawal. This is such a confusing medication. It seems it is used for the same things it causes so when something goes on, you don't know if it is causing it from being in the system or if it is a withdrawal. In my research, I found that withdrawal symptoms could take up to 25 days to show. difficult child does his next step down on 10-15-08 so that means today is Day 25.
So, we are at the point that withdrawal symptoms should be showing if they will and he has a symptom that could be either the withdrawal or the medication itself.
During the buffet stop, there was another incident of something that difficult child did not remember doing (a trip to the food bar). So, I am not sure what is going on with memory (which may be another side effect of Fluoxetine). Did he really not know what he did in Gander (though I think he was lying about not remembering)? Was the forgetting the trip to the food bar on purpose (a lie again - it doesn't feel like it is) or just everyday forgetfulness (probably - though not as common in the young) or is there something I should be watching?
Here's to day 25 and days 26 - 30 when the next taper step is scheduled.
To set the mood for the day: TIRED difficult child and I were both tired and the rain was not helping. We all know that is not a good way to start a day of errands.
difficult child was becoming disrespectful - calling me names, telling me he had to teach me whatever (I think I was too tired to understand that one), not listening. I told him I did not like his attitude toward me. Nothing major but something that needed to stop before it grew.
He was also complaining about not being able to ride bike far from home because I wouldn't be able to get hold of him. So, that brought about the insisting that we should buy him long range walkie talkies or a track phone because, "Mom, I am old enough for a cell phone"
After Gander Mountain, we headed to therapist appointment. I wrote on the form that he was refusing to do a math reassign this weekend because he wanted to wait until Monday's tutoring session and that he was disrespectful to me this morning. When husband and I joined the session, therapist discussed with us that difficult child should do the assignment to the best of his ability and then ask teacher if he could go over it that night with his tutor. He also stated that difficult child did not know what he had done to be disrespectful. He wondered if he did anything at Gander? When I told him what he had done, he denied it. "No, I did not. I don't remember that." We talked about it anyway. We also talked about him riding bike to a nearby gas station that requires him to cross a busy street (no crosswalks). I told therapist and difficult child that next Spring when the bike riding season starts up again, we can visit that issue and I can see difficult child having some bike priviledges with boundaries attached.
We then went to eat at a buffet. difficult child had a good sized meal. It was a very late lunch. If I had known Gander would take that long, we would have eaten instead but no one was hungry.
I gave difficult child some money and dropped them both off at Scheels while I went to Party City. I stopped at JoAnn's Fabric also and was gone about one hour.
When I returned to Scheels, I went in to find them. difficult child told me he was feeling very weird and had suicide thoughts. (I need to talk to him about his definition of the thoughts since I think based on his history they may be serious self harm thoughts.)
I reviewed the day's events in my head and determined he did not have a much fluids as normal so could be heading for dehydration. So I came home and started research on dehydration causing suicide thoughts (I know, this may have been crazy to even think about but it was the only thing different) but did not find anything concrete. Next I looked up Fluoxetine Withdrawal. This is such a confusing medication. It seems it is used for the same things it causes so when something goes on, you don't know if it is causing it from being in the system or if it is a withdrawal. In my research, I found that withdrawal symptoms could take up to 25 days to show. difficult child does his next step down on 10-15-08 so that means today is Day 25.
So, we are at the point that withdrawal symptoms should be showing if they will and he has a symptom that could be either the withdrawal or the medication itself.
During the buffet stop, there was another incident of something that difficult child did not remember doing (a trip to the food bar). So, I am not sure what is going on with memory (which may be another side effect of Fluoxetine). Did he really not know what he did in Gander (though I think he was lying about not remembering)? Was the forgetting the trip to the food bar on purpose (a lie again - it doesn't feel like it is) or just everyday forgetfulness (probably - though not as common in the young) or is there something I should be watching?
Here's to day 25 and days 26 - 30 when the next taper step is scheduled.
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