We all recommend reading the Explosive child and are probably comfortable with Plan A (do it or else) and Plan C (not worth the battle). But how many of you actually try to practice Plan b and go through the steps consistently? Have you learned it on your own or do you think you need to go to seminar? And how does Love and Logic fit in? It doesn't really seem totally consistent with Explosive Child --more like an empathetic Plan A--I can't make you do it but if you don't do x or y or z the consequence will be a or b. Less emphasis on problem solving. I like the philosophies and try to apply them in general terms but don't think I am doing a great job on the specifics. Have any of you gotten out of crisis mode long enough and really made an effort to systematically apply these tools? Any thoughts or advice?