I mentioned in an earlier thread that wm must become a part of the treatment team ~ he has to believe in what's being done for him. The same with kt. It would seem that at a certain point our difficult children would get with the program - heck, in some point lead the program in other ways than behaviors/risky choices & the like. After the mental illnesses are treated with medications, all the physical issues are addressed, our difficult children must become active members of the mental health care team (whatever that is for your difficult child). I know that neither kt nor wm know how weary some of the team members become when it's the same thing different day report quarter after quarter. We're running out of ideas & plans. So how do you get your difficult children to believe...to become an active member of the treatment team? To believe in themselves & their abilities?