That daughter of mine is on VERY thin ice right now. Most of it is typical teen stinkitude, but I was a teenager too and I am vastly more creative than she is. More years of practice, ya know. As my daddy always threatened me, "Old. Age. and. Treachery. Beats. Youth. and. Whatever. Every. Time.". Yes, he did say it in caps like that with all those periods. She is pissy, mostly mad at herself but taking it out on us, largely on me. She 'forgot' that she doesn't get to just give me the cost of the hair iron that was destroyed. She has to REPLACE it. She is angry because I told her she is NOT getting one of the new mp3 players because her attitude etc... just haven't earned it. Of course she brought up having the money to pay for it today as though I never said anything about not giving one to her for a while. she has not even ATTEMPTED to give back the one of mine that she finally did ask to borrow "just for a day". That is the problem. Today she and thank you were told that they had to clean the kitchen. Both of them claimed to have 'done all the work', and neiither did more than load the dishwasher yesterday when they were told to do it. Today husband was going to take them to the new kids' museum here but I said they had to clean the kitchen first. it took them FOUR HOURS. Seriously! Should have taken ONE person under an hour, but no, they couldn't do it with any common sense. Cause dishes cannot get clean if you don't put them in the dishwasher. Right. J has been giving a LOT of attitude and much comes out as door slamming. I can do it better than she can, and keep it up longer. Trust me, she is a wipm on the long term tantrum scale. At 3 yrs younger than her I had a tantrum for 50 min a day, 5 days a week, for a MONTH because my shop teacher was a chauvinistic jerk. My classmates were awestruck, esp as he not only gave in and allowed me to do the project I wanted, and I did it in a month less time than they had, I also had the guy apologizing and going out of his way to make me happy the rest of the semester. J cannot even hold a tantrum or snit for more than a day or two. She is close to a door slamming top of my lungs day. If that is the only way she will talk to me or express ehrself, I can return it in triplicate. I have already tried to discuss things, etc...., and none of it is changing her snit-itude. She just got her LAST warning that she does not want me to start returning her 'tude. If the ONLY time she will do what I ask is when I yell, then I can yell EVERYTHING I say to her. She hates that, lol. All of my kds do. but they do push until it gets to that point. And they later realize it.