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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 722408" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Hi and Welcome!! You have come to a wonderful place for help and support!! You won't find any judgement here, just parents who have been there and truly understand.</p><p></p><p>I do recommend that you take a look at a couple of books. The first one is The Explosive Child by Ross Greene. It truly is amazingly helpful though it may seem counter-intuitive. The second one is What Your Explosive Child is Trying to Tell You by Douglas Riley. </p><p></p><p>I suggest you take all electronics away from your daughter for the foreseeable future. If she must use them, she needs an adult sitting right next to her. If it is for fun, she must earn your time. If she doesn't want to earn your time, she doesn't want to be online. I had to do that with my oldest child and it was not fun. I did enforce that ban, even at school. Yes, his teachers hated me with a passion. They couldn't just plug him in and go play on facebook for the entire period the way they did with their other classes. They actually had one student they had to find lessons in books for. All of his teachers were sending the kids to websites to do all of their lessons at the time. He needed to be totally offline because he could get around the school's net nanny with incredible ease - took him less than 30 seconds! So the teachers had to find other things to keep him busy. He pitched incredible fits about it. I didn't really care because I knew he needed it. </p><p></p><p>Your daughter is doing something very dangerous online. You need to protect her before she is lured away from your home and grabbed by some creep and forced into slavery somewhere. There is a whole nasty underbelly in this country that is doing this. I live in Oklahoma and for some reason one of the big cities here seems to be a major hub for this. It is truly ugly and they take kids even younger than your daughter. As tall and well developed as your daughter is, she would be someone they would love to get their hands on. She would probably be easy to lure out of the house too. Don't think you are going overboard when you take all electronics away and tell her friends and their parents that she cannot go online for any reason. </p><p></p><p>Have any of the doctors suggested bipolar or mood disorder not otherwise specified (not otherwise specified) for her? I ask because of the hypersexual behavior. It can be a symptom of bipolar disorder. Sometimes this is called mood disorder not otherwise specified in kids or if it isn't super clear that it is bipolar but it is clear that it is a problem with her moods. Don't write it off just because she hasn't been really depressed or really happy. Kids can express this differently. Not only do some kids cycle far more rapidly than adults, often several times a day, they also can get stuck in a mixed state where they are both depressed and manic at the same time. It isn't a fun state to deal with. </p><p></p><p>I suggest you read The Bipolar Child by Papalous and pay attention to the medication regimen he suggests. If you decide to try her on medications for bipolar, you want to be careful. There is a medication protocol approved by the board of child and adolescent psychiatrists. For some strange reason, many psychiatrists want to not follow it even though it has been proven to be the most effective medication protocol for bipolar patients. The protocol says to start witha mood stabilizer, and sometimes an atypical antipsychotic is added to help stabilize moods. Once moods are stable, if other symptoms persist, very small doses of antidepressants (for depression) or stimulants (for adhd) can be trialed. The reason for waiting and using very small doses of antidepressants and stimulants is that both of these medications can cause mood cycling in patients with bipolar/mood disorder not otherwise specified. They tend to cause mania but that will swing down into depression and then back up into mania etc.... Quite a few other medications do this also. The book I recommended is very helpful in explaining this. </p><p></p><p>I strongly recommend you create a Parent Report. It is a report that you write about your daughter. You can follow the link in my signature at the bottom of this post to get to the thread about the Parent Report. Moms who were here before me created the outline. It was one of the most powerful tools that I had when we were getting help for my son. It kept all of the information in one place so that I could give it to a doctor, therapist, teacher or whomever as needed. We didn't duplicate medications because I could say that we already tried that medication with this result back on such and such a date. Having everything at my fingertips gave me confidence and made it harder for any of them to intimidate me also. It really is worth taking several evenings to write the report, and to keep it updated as you work through the problems over the next years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 722408, member: 1233"] Hi and Welcome!! You have come to a wonderful place for help and support!! You won't find any judgement here, just parents who have been there and truly understand. I do recommend that you take a look at a couple of books. The first one is The Explosive Child by Ross Greene. It truly is amazingly helpful though it may seem counter-intuitive. The second one is What Your Explosive Child is Trying to Tell You by Douglas Riley. I suggest you take all electronics away from your daughter for the foreseeable future. If she must use them, she needs an adult sitting right next to her. If it is for fun, she must earn your time. If she doesn't want to earn your time, she doesn't want to be online. I had to do that with my oldest child and it was not fun. I did enforce that ban, even at school. Yes, his teachers hated me with a passion. They couldn't just plug him in and go play on facebook for the entire period the way they did with their other classes. They actually had one student they had to find lessons in books for. All of his teachers were sending the kids to websites to do all of their lessons at the time. He needed to be totally offline because he could get around the school's net nanny with incredible ease - took him less than 30 seconds! So the teachers had to find other things to keep him busy. He pitched incredible fits about it. I didn't really care because I knew he needed it. Your daughter is doing something very dangerous online. You need to protect her before she is lured away from your home and grabbed by some creep and forced into slavery somewhere. There is a whole nasty underbelly in this country that is doing this. I live in Oklahoma and for some reason one of the big cities here seems to be a major hub for this. It is truly ugly and they take kids even younger than your daughter. As tall and well developed as your daughter is, she would be someone they would love to get their hands on. She would probably be easy to lure out of the house too. Don't think you are going overboard when you take all electronics away and tell her friends and their parents that she cannot go online for any reason. Have any of the doctors suggested bipolar or mood disorder not otherwise specified (not otherwise specified) for her? I ask because of the hypersexual behavior. It can be a symptom of bipolar disorder. Sometimes this is called mood disorder not otherwise specified in kids or if it isn't super clear that it is bipolar but it is clear that it is a problem with her moods. Don't write it off just because she hasn't been really depressed or really happy. Kids can express this differently. Not only do some kids cycle far more rapidly than adults, often several times a day, they also can get stuck in a mixed state where they are both depressed and manic at the same time. It isn't a fun state to deal with. I suggest you read The Bipolar Child by Papalous and pay attention to the medication regimen he suggests. If you decide to try her on medications for bipolar, you want to be careful. There is a medication protocol approved by the board of child and adolescent psychiatrists. For some strange reason, many psychiatrists want to not follow it even though it has been proven to be the most effective medication protocol for bipolar patients. The protocol says to start witha mood stabilizer, and sometimes an atypical antipsychotic is added to help stabilize moods. Once moods are stable, if other symptoms persist, very small doses of antidepressants (for depression) or stimulants (for adhd) can be trialed. The reason for waiting and using very small doses of antidepressants and stimulants is that both of these medications can cause mood cycling in patients with bipolar/mood disorder not otherwise specified. They tend to cause mania but that will swing down into depression and then back up into mania etc.... Quite a few other medications do this also. The book I recommended is very helpful in explaining this. I strongly recommend you create a Parent Report. It is a report that you write about your daughter. You can follow the link in my signature at the bottom of this post to get to the thread about the Parent Report. Moms who were here before me created the outline. It was one of the most powerful tools that I had when we were getting help for my son. It kept all of the information in one place so that I could give it to a doctor, therapist, teacher or whomever as needed. We didn't duplicate medications because I could say that we already tried that medication with this result back on such and such a date. Having everything at my fingertips gave me confidence and made it harder for any of them to intimidate me also. It really is worth taking several evenings to write the report, and to keep it updated as you work through the problems over the next years. [/QUOTE]
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