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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 466175" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Because we adopted a child psychopath (well, they wouldn't call him one, but they used all the standby diagnosis...conduct disorder, severe reactive attachment disorder, brain damage), we learned a lot about kids at high risk for psychopathy. There are three very serious behaviors that, if you see together, are big red flags. Our kid had all of them.</p><p></p><p>1/Pottying inappropriately, possibly all over the place, possibly just inappropriately in pants when old enough to know better.</p><p></p><p>2/Cruelty to animals/killing animals. If your child deliberately did it, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or not, I'd call it a red flag. Most Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids do not kill animals. That would not be a normal part of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD).</p><p></p><p>3/Fascination with fire/setting fires (big or little), fire play, getting into matches, etc. Our adopted son used to light matches and singe his carpeting in front of my other kids to scare them and threaten to burn the house down, with all of us in it, if they told us (parents) that he was sexually abusing them (which he was). </p><p></p><p>I have heard these three markers from many respected experts, including one from Mayo Clinic. His desire to hurt animals is disturbing. Please don't ignore it and rehome any animals you may have. Our adopted son (who no longer has contact with us) killed two of our animals that we know of and possibly more. And he acted very loving around the animals when we were there...it was when we weren't...</p><p></p><p>I am not sure how you can treat a child with psychopathic tendencies. Our son was so dangerous that we didn't even try. The other two kids had been badly hurt by him and we just wanted him out of the house. He had been with us for two years. There has to be some professional who can work with these high risk kids though. Their brains are not done forming. If this child had not sexually abused the younger kids, we would have tried to help him, even if he had to live elsewhere, like an Residential Treatment Center (RTC), but we couldn't...because he did. I wish YOU better luck.</p><p></p><p>Now about Zoloft: If your son is suddenly suicidal (never spoke of it before) I'd consider the Zoloft as the cause. Any SSRI has a black box warning that it can cause suicide in kids under 18, and it can cause suicidal thoughts in adults too (but adults can express it better). Why doesn't psychiatrist try to wean him off of it slowly to see if that would stop the suicidal thoughts? Both Prozac and Celexa made my daughter feel suicidal. Be careful!</p><p></p><p>Finally, the alarm on the door. I don't lie to my kids. I'd probably say, "It is not safe for you to wander around the house at night alone right now. We want to keep you safe so this alarm will let us know when you get up, so that we can be with you."</p><p></p><p>Good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 466175, member: 1550"] Because we adopted a child psychopath (well, they wouldn't call him one, but they used all the standby diagnosis...conduct disorder, severe reactive attachment disorder, brain damage), we learned a lot about kids at high risk for psychopathy. There are three very serious behaviors that, if you see together, are big red flags. Our kid had all of them. 1/Pottying inappropriately, possibly all over the place, possibly just inappropriately in pants when old enough to know better. 2/Cruelty to animals/killing animals. If your child deliberately did it, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or not, I'd call it a red flag. Most Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids do not kill animals. That would not be a normal part of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). 3/Fascination with fire/setting fires (big or little), fire play, getting into matches, etc. Our adopted son used to light matches and singe his carpeting in front of my other kids to scare them and threaten to burn the house down, with all of us in it, if they told us (parents) that he was sexually abusing them (which he was). I have heard these three markers from many respected experts, including one from Mayo Clinic. His desire to hurt animals is disturbing. Please don't ignore it and rehome any animals you may have. Our adopted son (who no longer has contact with us) killed two of our animals that we know of and possibly more. And he acted very loving around the animals when we were there...it was when we weren't... I am not sure how you can treat a child with psychopathic tendencies. Our son was so dangerous that we didn't even try. The other two kids had been badly hurt by him and we just wanted him out of the house. He had been with us for two years. There has to be some professional who can work with these high risk kids though. Their brains are not done forming. If this child had not sexually abused the younger kids, we would have tried to help him, even if he had to live elsewhere, like an Residential Treatment Center (RTC), but we couldn't...because he did. I wish YOU better luck. Now about Zoloft: If your son is suddenly suicidal (never spoke of it before) I'd consider the Zoloft as the cause. Any SSRI has a black box warning that it can cause suicide in kids under 18, and it can cause suicidal thoughts in adults too (but adults can express it better). Why doesn't psychiatrist try to wean him off of it slowly to see if that would stop the suicidal thoughts? Both Prozac and Celexa made my daughter feel suicidal. Be careful! Finally, the alarm on the door. I don't lie to my kids. I'd probably say, "It is not safe for you to wander around the house at night alone right now. We want to keep you safe so this alarm will let us know when you get up, so that we can be with you." Good luck! [/QUOTE]
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