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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 701238" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I think you have a good handle on this and are getting one on sped law. I think the school has easily exceeded their 10 days of suspension if every day they send him home is counted, as legally it IS counted. If you can find a lawyer willing to help you, you likely have a VERY good case against the school. We got caught in that "we cannot evaluate him ov er the summer" and later I used that to help leverage our district into an agreement that anything any of my kids needed, my kids got. Of course they were trying to get me to not join a class action suit against my oldest son's sped teacher and the school and a I had her dead to rights for changing my son's IEP ON PAPER and never telling me or getting my signature - forging my signature. The woman was horrible and I had proof she did other things too, but thhose two things were the big ones for our case. THe summer does count in the amount of time to evaluate, and in fact they did testing for my son over the summer but said the days of summer break, and the weekends, didn't count in their time limits. That is ALLLLLLLL bovine excrement legally but most districts think parents don't know it or cannot make them follow it. Until you get an attorney or advocate involved.</p><p></p><p>Texas really has a horrible record for special education. I even know a family that had the school force medications on every boy in the school to make them easier to handle. This was back in the early 90's and we know a family who lived in that district and moved out of state because of it. After they moved they helped get a class action suit going and proved that the district literally put every single boy in every grade on medications or expelled them because medications made them easier to handle. It was just awful.</p><p></p><p>I hope the other school you are offered is more willing to help. PLEASE get your son to a private Occupational Therapist ASAP. The good ones are truly amazing and the things they do actually change how your child will feel about himself. During a 30 min session my son went from telling me he was stupid to actually feeling good about himself - it was NOT medication induced and he truly felt so much better about himself. Part of that is brushing therapy, also called Wilbarger Protocol, which is incredible. It is something that you MUST learn from the Occupational Therapist (OT), but you do with your child. You brush his skin in a specified order, followed by joint compression done in a certain order. It seems simple, but has incredible results. It can be done on bare skin or over clothing, and most kids either like it or don't mind it. Why is this incredible? First, if you are not properly trained, it can cause some real problems. If done correctly, it is proven to rewire the brain to handle sensory input in a better way. Yes, I said rewire the brain. Studies have shown that it changes how the brain handles sensory input!!! And this is without medication - so nothing to alter your son's mood or personality except gentle brushing with a soft brush (a surgical scrub brush without soap is generally used - I used to buy them by the dozen online because one of my kids would sleep with his brush and kept losing it under his bed, lol). </p><p></p><p>As for stuff to fidget with, I found that party supply stores were usually the cheapest place to find new things and to replace ones that were worn out or taken by other kids or lost by my kid. They also had the best selection. Often the Occupational Therapist (OT) supply places had the same things but were more expensive. None of my kids could ever pay attention in a classroom without something to fidget with. They had a few teachers who tried to tell them they couldn't have them (Items small enough to fit in a pocket), but after 2-3 days of one of my kids without a fidget, suddenly the fidgets were asked for. I never once asked for specifics of what the kids DID during those fidget free days, but I had a pretty good idea that the class had a hard time functioning, and I found it all pretty funny to be honest.</p><p></p><p>I know medication is a hard subject, and every parent has to figure out their own right answer. I can say that stimulants, given for ADHD, are fast in and fast out. This means that you will know with the first couple of doses whether they will work, and they will be out of your son's system in just a few hours, no lingering to cause problems. They are not side effect free, no medication is, but for people with adhd they can be a lifeline. Years ago, back in the dark ages of the 70's, my father used to pour Coke or coffee into students with ADHD because none of his students could afford medications. He taught shop in what was called a 'ghetto' school back then. It worked but not as well as medications would have. My son started taking adderall at age 7 on a Saturday. He took it an hour before a soccer game. It was the best game he had up to that point - every parent on the team AND his coach told us how amazing he did during the game and he scored 2 goals, more than in 2 years worth of games to that point! He is now 25 and is still on adhd medications, though he takes one that is not a stimulant now. Contrary to popular opinion, studies have proven that taking stimulants for adhd does not lead to drug use, esp illegal drug use, in later years. My son is totally against illegal drugs and rarely even drinks alcohol. I actually shudder to think of where my son would be without medications, if he even would be alive. He was always so hard on himself that he might have harmed himself without medications to help him. Not all the medications we tried were good, and he still needs medications, but I truly think they helped more than they harmed. </p><p></p><p>This is MY experience with medications. It may not be the same for you, I hope it isn't because I hope your son never gets as depressed as my son can get. But medications are something to think about when you get into the various experts who you have appointments with. They may or may not be right for your child right now, but they are something to think about. I will say that I am glad we did the stimulants before we went to non-stimulant medications for adhd because the medications came out of his system so fast. I cannot imagine putting him on some of those medications at so young an age.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 701238, member: 1233"] I think you have a good handle on this and are getting one on sped law. I think the school has easily exceeded their 10 days of suspension if every day they send him home is counted, as legally it IS counted. If you can find a lawyer willing to help you, you likely have a VERY good case against the school. We got caught in that "we cannot evaluate him ov er the summer" and later I used that to help leverage our district into an agreement that anything any of my kids needed, my kids got. Of course they were trying to get me to not join a class action suit against my oldest son's sped teacher and the school and a I had her dead to rights for changing my son's IEP ON PAPER and never telling me or getting my signature - forging my signature. The woman was horrible and I had proof she did other things too, but thhose two things were the big ones for our case. THe summer does count in the amount of time to evaluate, and in fact they did testing for my son over the summer but said the days of summer break, and the weekends, didn't count in their time limits. That is ALLLLLLLL bovine excrement legally but most districts think parents don't know it or cannot make them follow it. Until you get an attorney or advocate involved. Texas really has a horrible record for special education. I even know a family that had the school force medications on every boy in the school to make them easier to handle. This was back in the early 90's and we know a family who lived in that district and moved out of state because of it. After they moved they helped get a class action suit going and proved that the district literally put every single boy in every grade on medications or expelled them because medications made them easier to handle. It was just awful. I hope the other school you are offered is more willing to help. PLEASE get your son to a private Occupational Therapist ASAP. The good ones are truly amazing and the things they do actually change how your child will feel about himself. During a 30 min session my son went from telling me he was stupid to actually feeling good about himself - it was NOT medication induced and he truly felt so much better about himself. Part of that is brushing therapy, also called Wilbarger Protocol, which is incredible. It is something that you MUST learn from the Occupational Therapist (OT), but you do with your child. You brush his skin in a specified order, followed by joint compression done in a certain order. It seems simple, but has incredible results. It can be done on bare skin or over clothing, and most kids either like it or don't mind it. Why is this incredible? First, if you are not properly trained, it can cause some real problems. If done correctly, it is proven to rewire the brain to handle sensory input in a better way. Yes, I said rewire the brain. Studies have shown that it changes how the brain handles sensory input!!! And this is without medication - so nothing to alter your son's mood or personality except gentle brushing with a soft brush (a surgical scrub brush without soap is generally used - I used to buy them by the dozen online because one of my kids would sleep with his brush and kept losing it under his bed, lol). As for stuff to fidget with, I found that party supply stores were usually the cheapest place to find new things and to replace ones that were worn out or taken by other kids or lost by my kid. They also had the best selection. Often the Occupational Therapist (OT) supply places had the same things but were more expensive. None of my kids could ever pay attention in a classroom without something to fidget with. They had a few teachers who tried to tell them they couldn't have them (Items small enough to fit in a pocket), but after 2-3 days of one of my kids without a fidget, suddenly the fidgets were asked for. I never once asked for specifics of what the kids DID during those fidget free days, but I had a pretty good idea that the class had a hard time functioning, and I found it all pretty funny to be honest. I know medication is a hard subject, and every parent has to figure out their own right answer. I can say that stimulants, given for ADHD, are fast in and fast out. This means that you will know with the first couple of doses whether they will work, and they will be out of your son's system in just a few hours, no lingering to cause problems. They are not side effect free, no medication is, but for people with adhd they can be a lifeline. Years ago, back in the dark ages of the 70's, my father used to pour Coke or coffee into students with ADHD because none of his students could afford medications. He taught shop in what was called a 'ghetto' school back then. It worked but not as well as medications would have. My son started taking adderall at age 7 on a Saturday. He took it an hour before a soccer game. It was the best game he had up to that point - every parent on the team AND his coach told us how amazing he did during the game and he scored 2 goals, more than in 2 years worth of games to that point! He is now 25 and is still on adhd medications, though he takes one that is not a stimulant now. Contrary to popular opinion, studies have proven that taking stimulants for adhd does not lead to drug use, esp illegal drug use, in later years. My son is totally against illegal drugs and rarely even drinks alcohol. I actually shudder to think of where my son would be without medications, if he even would be alive. He was always so hard on himself that he might have harmed himself without medications to help him. Not all the medications we tried were good, and he still needs medications, but I truly think they helped more than they harmed. This is MY experience with medications. It may not be the same for you, I hope it isn't because I hope your son never gets as depressed as my son can get. But medications are something to think about when you get into the various experts who you have appointments with. They may or may not be right for your child right now, but they are something to think about. I will say that I am glad we did the stimulants before we went to non-stimulant medications for adhd because the medications came out of his system so fast. I cannot imagine putting him on some of those medications at so young an age. [/QUOTE]
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