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6yr old with possible ODD....I need your help!
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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 349293" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Hi Natalie, I'm coming a bit late to this. Welcome, sorry you need us.</p><p></p><p>Your son sounds a lot like mine. The apparent rudeness, defiance, refusal to work in class even though he can do it - I do strongly beleive he needs to be assessed for Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) in some form. Also possibly ADHD which you can have at the same time (some people say it's part of the specrum).</p><p></p><p>You would need a neuropsychologist assessment, they aren't necessariiy cheap. The school could possibly organise it but schools tend to not have the resources to really go into the child in depth. They also tend to average out the subscores, which means that a kid who is gifted but learning disabled, gets completely missed and classed as normal and average. A tragedy.</p><p></p><p>If the school has already done their own neuropsychologist assessment, get copies in detail of the sub-scores and send them to someone private who can then follow on with their own more detailed testing. But if there hasn't been anything done yet - then this is a vital investment in your child, go private for it.</p><p></p><p>When you get the results, look at the sub-scores. What has he scored really high in? What has he scored low in? Then you use this information to use his high skill areas to encourage him and help him in the low skill areas.</p><p></p><p>You also need them to work towards a diagnosis. The behaviours you describe could indicate poor social skills, difficulties in tis area which for your child, do not come as naturally as for other children. He IS capable of learning, but the usual reward/punishment is clearly not working. And anything that is not working - drop it. It is better to not try to discipline a child, than to try and get egg on your face.</p><p></p><p>There are other ways.</p><p></p><p>We recommend, among other books, "The Explosive Child" by Ross Greene. There will be other books recommended, but I suggest you start with this one. Get it out of your library or browse the info about it on this site (Early Childhood forum has some stickies dealing with this book).</p><p></p><p>Also for your own brainstorming exercise, go to <a href="http://www.childbrain.com" target="_blank">www.childbrain.com</a> and do their online Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire. You can't use it to diagnose, but you can print out the result and take it to the school, to the doctor, to a specialist and say, "This is an indication of what concerns me."</p><p></p><p>Welcome. We can help. Many of us have been where you are now, and are doing better.</p><p></p><p>I have so much more I could say, but I will wait until you're ready for it. It can be overwhelming and really, you have to deal with things a little piece at a time.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 349293, member: 1991"] Hi Natalie, I'm coming a bit late to this. Welcome, sorry you need us. Your son sounds a lot like mine. The apparent rudeness, defiance, refusal to work in class even though he can do it - I do strongly beleive he needs to be assessed for Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) in some form. Also possibly ADHD which you can have at the same time (some people say it's part of the specrum). You would need a neuropsychologist assessment, they aren't necessariiy cheap. The school could possibly organise it but schools tend to not have the resources to really go into the child in depth. They also tend to average out the subscores, which means that a kid who is gifted but learning disabled, gets completely missed and classed as normal and average. A tragedy. If the school has already done their own neuropsychologist assessment, get copies in detail of the sub-scores and send them to someone private who can then follow on with their own more detailed testing. But if there hasn't been anything done yet - then this is a vital investment in your child, go private for it. When you get the results, look at the sub-scores. What has he scored really high in? What has he scored low in? Then you use this information to use his high skill areas to encourage him and help him in the low skill areas. You also need them to work towards a diagnosis. The behaviours you describe could indicate poor social skills, difficulties in tis area which for your child, do not come as naturally as for other children. He IS capable of learning, but the usual reward/punishment is clearly not working. And anything that is not working - drop it. It is better to not try to discipline a child, than to try and get egg on your face. There are other ways. We recommend, among other books, "The Explosive Child" by Ross Greene. There will be other books recommended, but I suggest you start with this one. Get it out of your library or browse the info about it on this site (Early Childhood forum has some stickies dealing with this book). Also for your own brainstorming exercise, go to [url]www.childbrain.com[/url] and do their online Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire. You can't use it to diagnose, but you can print out the result and take it to the school, to the doctor, to a specialist and say, "This is an indication of what concerns me." Welcome. We can help. Many of us have been where you are now, and are doing better. I have so much more I could say, but I will wait until you're ready for it. It can be overwhelming and really, you have to deal with things a little piece at a time. Marg [/QUOTE]
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