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<blockquote data-quote="dreamer" data-source="post: 126712" data-attributes="member: 1697"><p>OK so we do NOT get a garbage BILL- becuz we buy the bags, and THAT is our "garbage bill" So thats good. Kind of. and we can put as many bags out as we want to. we no longer get take out food, LOL- at least if we do we do NOT bring it home, LOL. too expensive to get rid of! </p><p>It is a problem if we have something like a broken box fan? does not fit in garbage bags, is not recycleable-----and costs extra, we have NO "free" or "special" garbage times here at all, ever. </p><p>I should clarify, when we first moved here, recycling was free, and it was mandatory. the bin was $8.....but gradually so many bins blew away or broke, and as they began to accept more things for recycling, they were not big enough for some families, and now you can still buy a bin to use, but you can also put your recycles in......a laundry basket......a storage bin.....brown grocery bag......</p><p>Occasionally people do come take cans out of other peoples recycle bins.....and it has been ruled here it is NOT a crime.....not at all.....the nearest can recycle facility is not close by......we do not pay extra here for glass.....and paper is hard to find someone who will take it....they also pick up plastic here, many types, and cardboard, like from cereal boxes and or corrogated, now etc.....and magazines etc, too.....all at our curb, - if you put it in the recycle bin, it is fair game for anyone who might decide they want to take it in themself. So we do not pay for them to take our recycles, and unless we drive it somewhere ourself we do not get paid for it-----BUT incentive to recycle is strong, becuz that is one way you can reduce how many garbage bags you have to buy. we try hard to be careful what we purchase, and how it is packaged etc to help reduce our need for those garbage bags....BUT - it is not always easy.....and sad to say, it is a problem, when you have something bulky....that maybe does not weigh a lot, but will not fit in a bag........and horrible, but, we tend to resent the cost so much, we end up saving a bunch of stupid things in our poor garage.......</p><p>scratching our heads trying to figure out what to do with it. and charity? I dunno------maybe it is similar everywhere? Here most places have begun to only accept new unused items for donation, I CAN understand why- some people tended to give them things that were really in horrid shape and then the charities were stuck with huge dispoasal bills.........</p><p>and garage sales? well, thats a whole nother story. We are allowed 2 per 12 months...and must buy a permit, and cannot post signs, only an ad in newspaper (that we of course must pay for) AND last time I had a garage sale.....turns out if you have a neighbor that complains about the extra traffic or noise on your street becuz of the garage sale? They CAN demand you close!!!!!!!!! (and if you did not go get your permit, it is a huge fine) </p><p></p><p>Can you guess what is occuring in my county? People are tossing things out of car windows all over to the farmers fields etc. <sigh> </p><p>PLUS you also have to be careful what IS in your yard......you may NOT have anything that COULD be considered garbage or trash visible. anything set to the curb MUST be GONE within 24 hours of you putting it to curb......eveen like your old broken hot water heater- so if you call and arrange for special pickup and they fail to show up when they say they will? You have to sometimes drag it back in. </p><p></p><p>Oh and if a raccoon or something gets at your city garbage bag, or if it is not tied shut------or if it rips? (we got a bad batch once that was flimsey) they will NOT take it. </p><p></p><p>Our garbage men are not bad, they put my bin back right where I left it.....altho they sometimes do not look when they empty it and sometimes not everything comes out of it and they leave it here with things still inside. </p><p>And, I do not know about other places, but, our garbage men now work one man per truck, alone, he drives, parks, gets out, throws our garbgae into his truck, gets back in and drives to next house. It used to be 2 men, one drove and one grabbed the garbage, but not anymore. </p><p></p><p>I have been worrying that if he is in a hurry or something, he might not get the gear shift into "park" and his truck might roll, cuz our houses are very close together and there he is hopping in and out like that and then walking around his truck to our curb? (cuz the steering wheel etc is not on curb side of truck, ya know?) </p><p></p><p></p><p>OK so, this is not a typcal conversation everyone has over coffee with friends, BUT, LOL, it IS interesting to hear how different it can be town to town, state to state - country to country, LOL! </p><p></p><p>Some weeks we have barely enough to fill one city bag.......and on very rare occasions, if it is VERY cold and I do not have enough to fill one bag, I sometimes hold it till the next week.......</p><p>other times, like if I am doing a major project? we have had as many as 15-20 bags out for one week. And over the last 20 years in this house, there have been 2-3 times when the garbage man did not SEE our bag, not sure why......and skipped over us. Usually we have 1 bag or 2. And I have pushed my kids hard to recycle......and to squish all garbage tiny........and this has been how they have done our garbage our whole 20 years here- my kids whole life, so- thankfully my kids did not have to LEARN it.it is how they grew up. </p><p></p><p>I do not compost much.....in town, small yard, close to neighbors.....and I leave grass clipping on the lawn.......I put eggshells and coffee grounds and such in garbage disposal mostly.......feed peels to our bunny........LOL.</p><p></p><p>I do hafta comment, getting our 3 kittens last year? Their litterboxes DID make a noticeable difference in our garbage output.......LOL. And I experimented with different types of cat litter becuz of the garbage issues. LOL. ANd then I found THAT kinda funny/weird- to decide what litter to use becuz of garbage? LOL. --see, cats are not permitted to be outside in my town, either---a rural town, but cats cannot be outside......</p><p>Thats yet another huge huge fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer, post: 126712, member: 1697"] OK so we do NOT get a garbage BILL- becuz we buy the bags, and THAT is our "garbage bill" So thats good. Kind of. and we can put as many bags out as we want to. we no longer get take out food, LOL- at least if we do we do NOT bring it home, LOL. too expensive to get rid of! It is a problem if we have something like a broken box fan? does not fit in garbage bags, is not recycleable-----and costs extra, we have NO "free" or "special" garbage times here at all, ever. I should clarify, when we first moved here, recycling was free, and it was mandatory. the bin was $8.....but gradually so many bins blew away or broke, and as they began to accept more things for recycling, they were not big enough for some families, and now you can still buy a bin to use, but you can also put your recycles in......a laundry basket......a storage bin.....brown grocery bag...... Occasionally people do come take cans out of other peoples recycle bins.....and it has been ruled here it is NOT a crime.....not at all.....the nearest can recycle facility is not close by......we do not pay extra here for glass.....and paper is hard to find someone who will take it....they also pick up plastic here, many types, and cardboard, like from cereal boxes and or corrogated, now etc.....and magazines etc, too.....all at our curb, - if you put it in the recycle bin, it is fair game for anyone who might decide they want to take it in themself. So we do not pay for them to take our recycles, and unless we drive it somewhere ourself we do not get paid for it-----BUT incentive to recycle is strong, becuz that is one way you can reduce how many garbage bags you have to buy. we try hard to be careful what we purchase, and how it is packaged etc to help reduce our need for those garbage bags....BUT - it is not always easy.....and sad to say, it is a problem, when you have something bulky....that maybe does not weigh a lot, but will not fit in a bag........and horrible, but, we tend to resent the cost so much, we end up saving a bunch of stupid things in our poor garage....... scratching our heads trying to figure out what to do with it. and charity? I dunno------maybe it is similar everywhere? Here most places have begun to only accept new unused items for donation, I CAN understand why- some people tended to give them things that were really in horrid shape and then the charities were stuck with huge dispoasal bills......... and garage sales? well, thats a whole nother story. We are allowed 2 per 12 months...and must buy a permit, and cannot post signs, only an ad in newspaper (that we of course must pay for) AND last time I had a garage sale.....turns out if you have a neighbor that complains about the extra traffic or noise on your street becuz of the garage sale? They CAN demand you close!!!!!!!!! (and if you did not go get your permit, it is a huge fine) Can you guess what is occuring in my county? People are tossing things out of car windows all over to the farmers fields etc. <sigh> PLUS you also have to be careful what IS in your yard......you may NOT have anything that COULD be considered garbage or trash visible. anything set to the curb MUST be GONE within 24 hours of you putting it to curb......eveen like your old broken hot water heater- so if you call and arrange for special pickup and they fail to show up when they say they will? You have to sometimes drag it back in. Oh and if a raccoon or something gets at your city garbage bag, or if it is not tied shut------or if it rips? (we got a bad batch once that was flimsey) they will NOT take it. Our garbage men are not bad, they put my bin back right where I left it.....altho they sometimes do not look when they empty it and sometimes not everything comes out of it and they leave it here with things still inside. And, I do not know about other places, but, our garbage men now work one man per truck, alone, he drives, parks, gets out, throws our garbgae into his truck, gets back in and drives to next house. It used to be 2 men, one drove and one grabbed the garbage, but not anymore. I have been worrying that if he is in a hurry or something, he might not get the gear shift into "park" and his truck might roll, cuz our houses are very close together and there he is hopping in and out like that and then walking around his truck to our curb? (cuz the steering wheel etc is not on curb side of truck, ya know?) OK so, this is not a typcal conversation everyone has over coffee with friends, BUT, LOL, it IS interesting to hear how different it can be town to town, state to state - country to country, LOL! Some weeks we have barely enough to fill one city bag.......and on very rare occasions, if it is VERY cold and I do not have enough to fill one bag, I sometimes hold it till the next week....... other times, like if I am doing a major project? we have had as many as 15-20 bags out for one week. And over the last 20 years in this house, there have been 2-3 times when the garbage man did not SEE our bag, not sure why......and skipped over us. Usually we have 1 bag or 2. And I have pushed my kids hard to recycle......and to squish all garbage tiny........and this has been how they have done our garbage our whole 20 years here- my kids whole life, so- thankfully my kids did not have to LEARN it.it is how they grew up. I do not compost much.....in town, small yard, close to neighbors.....and I leave grass clipping on the lawn.......I put eggshells and coffee grounds and such in garbage disposal mostly.......feed peels to our bunny........LOL. I do hafta comment, getting our 3 kittens last year? Their litterboxes DID make a noticeable difference in our garbage output.......LOL. And I experimented with different types of cat litter becuz of the garbage issues. LOL. ANd then I found THAT kinda funny/weird- to decide what litter to use becuz of garbage? LOL. --see, cats are not permitted to be outside in my town, either---a rural town, but cats cannot be outside...... Thats yet another huge huge fine. [/QUOTE]
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