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A weird night and Jumper and J. are over
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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 488643" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Hi and thanks. OMG, I didn't think that giving back the phone could be a symptom of suicide! Wow. </p><p></p><p>I am truly at a loss. His family knows he is suicidal. I guess "mom" just doesn't take it seriously because this is NOT the time to get huffy and moralistic, even if they WERE having sex, and they aren't. But just say they were...is it worth it to push him over the edge? Father is more involved with him, but this is a family that doesn't talk. </p><p></p><p>Jumper is VERY upset over this, but she isn't particularly feeling burdened or sad. She is a very carefree, happy kid, which I believe is partly what attracts her to him, and she has not been sulking. Although he scares her when he talks about suicide, I'm not sure how serious she thinks he is. I am going to suggest that she encourage him to get help. I don't know if he will. I am not going to encourage her to say "or else I won't see you anymore" because I don't want her to be the one who sets him off if he is truly suicidal. There is absolutely nothing I can do to stop her from being in his life. She wants him there. All of her friends drive. She would find a way to get to him, even if she had to sneak and we don't have that sort of relationship...I don't want to drive her to that. But, in a way, she and J. ARE just friends...there really hasn't been any sex. Both of them are against pre-marital sex and I think she would do it before he would...lol...but not at her age, not now. He is Tim Tebow religious...it may the only thing holding him together besides Jumper...the fear of what God would do if he killed himself.</p><p></p><p>I am afraid he is seriously close to suicide and am going to talk to Jumper right now. We need to have a looooooong talk about how his constant talk of suicide is a red flag...and the phone and everything. He was going to come over and give her everything back that she gave him. The whole thing is chilling. I feel like calling his father, but he doesn't like me. I don't know if he'd even listen or if I can even reach him and I don't want to bother talking to stepmother. She makes things even worse. It wouldn't shock me if they blamed Jumper for his being suicidal and I don't think I could deal with hearing that right now. If anything he is hanging on because she is there for him and nobody else is.</p><p></p><p>On Thanksgiving, his entire family was there and he has a huge family, but he sat apart from everybody else. I see a lot of scary warning signs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 488643, member: 1550"] Hi and thanks. OMG, I didn't think that giving back the phone could be a symptom of suicide! Wow. I am truly at a loss. His family knows he is suicidal. I guess "mom" just doesn't take it seriously because this is NOT the time to get huffy and moralistic, even if they WERE having sex, and they aren't. But just say they were...is it worth it to push him over the edge? Father is more involved with him, but this is a family that doesn't talk. Jumper is VERY upset over this, but she isn't particularly feeling burdened or sad. She is a very carefree, happy kid, which I believe is partly what attracts her to him, and she has not been sulking. Although he scares her when he talks about suicide, I'm not sure how serious she thinks he is. I am going to suggest that she encourage him to get help. I don't know if he will. I am not going to encourage her to say "or else I won't see you anymore" because I don't want her to be the one who sets him off if he is truly suicidal. There is absolutely nothing I can do to stop her from being in his life. She wants him there. All of her friends drive. She would find a way to get to him, even if she had to sneak and we don't have that sort of relationship...I don't want to drive her to that. But, in a way, she and J. ARE just friends...there really hasn't been any sex. Both of them are against pre-marital sex and I think she would do it before he would...lol...but not at her age, not now. He is Tim Tebow religious...it may the only thing holding him together besides Jumper...the fear of what God would do if he killed himself. I am afraid he is seriously close to suicide and am going to talk to Jumper right now. We need to have a looooooong talk about how his constant talk of suicide is a red flag...and the phone and everything. He was going to come over and give her everything back that she gave him. The whole thing is chilling. I feel like calling his father, but he doesn't like me. I don't know if he'd even listen or if I can even reach him and I don't want to bother talking to stepmother. She makes things even worse. It wouldn't shock me if they blamed Jumper for his being suicidal and I don't think I could deal with hearing that right now. If anything he is hanging on because she is there for him and nobody else is. On Thanksgiving, his entire family was there and he has a huge family, but he sat apart from everybody else. I see a lot of scary warning signs. [/QUOTE]
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