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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 467482" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I would have a FIT. First that they didn't separate him from this other kid, that the 1:1 aid is not stopping this other boy teaching him sex words and egging him one (isn't that part of the job description? you know - being with him all the time so this doesn't happen or is greatly reduced?), second that he can't go to lunch for behavior done in class.</p><p></p><p>Punishing him for seizure behavior is like punishing him for breathing or blinking. He has the same control over these phrases as he does, probably even less control because you can breathe faster or slower and you can control blinking to some degree. </p><p></p><p>PUSH them to punish the other boy because this is not appropriate. Then have a fit because they are NOT allowed to punish him for manifestations of his disability. Period. It is NOT negotiable or optional. Well, if you are in the US it isn't. Even if it is, this is NOT an appropriate punishment. Have him sit separate from other kids with his aide for a week if they have to do something. But seriously, where was the aide when the boy taught him this? Has anyone answered that question satisfactorily?</p><p></p><p>Check out the tourettes website and also call your neuro to get a letter or something explaining that this is seizure behavior and you are working to control it but that difficult child is NOT to be punished for it. I am SURE that the neuro is aware of his inability to control this. Point out to the school that this is only done because seizures and because the other kids reinforce it and told him it was okay - that was the start of it, but then it got stuck in his brain and now he can't stop it. </p><p></p><p>Also DEMAND that the other boy get WHATEVER punishment that difficult child gets because I am VERY sure that the other boy knew it was not okay to say and he taught it to difficult child anyway. Ask the school to let you explain to the other parents if possible. Here when a child has a problem like this they educate the whole class on the disability in a general way and teach them acceptance and tolerance. Doesn't always work on the teachers, but the kids are awesome about it at all levels of school because it has been done for over 20 yrs here. So a child with a problem may get some teasing and bullying but the other kids usually tell the teacher or will tell the parents what is going on if the teacher won't handle the bullies. </p><p></p><p>The tourettes foundation has some AWESOME info to help educate teachers and classrooms. At least I am pretty sure that is where husband's coworker found it. A guy he used to work with had a son with tourettes and at one point would blurt out things like your difficult child along with various racial slurs that other kids taught him. Things said with emphasis are often repeated, so this man and his wife would use the same type of emphasis with other, more acceptable words and one year were able to get the teacher and other kids to help. It made a huge difference.</p><p></p><p>Maybe at home you can put swear type emphasis on words like fudge, baloney, or whatever seems like it might work. It couldn't hurt and might help replace these words, esp if you gave him some "consequence" to be the "negative" attention and shock that originally made these words appeal to him. While he isn't a toddler, this is waht we did wehn my kids picked up swear wrods from us when they were too young to understand that they couldn't say them. This is something the school can help with and is a positive step that has a lot better chance of helping him and stopping the phrases than depriving him of the chances to learn appropriate social behavior in unstructured settings like the lunchroom.</p><p></p><p>Has anyone ever told you why they allowed him to sit with a group of kids in the lunchroom other than the ones who were approved to help him with social skills or at the sp ed table? I would be asking why that was allowed to happen when they all KNEW that he could not handle being on his own in an unstructured social setting. If you don't get a decent answer on this, maybe it is time to speak with the district sp ed director or the superintendent of schools to see why tehy allowed this to happen?</p><p></p><p>You probably can bring an attorney into this and get some help in pushing the school to follow the BIP rather than doing the stupid things they are doing. either the school atty would know that this is a HUGE no-no (punishing a child for the manifestation of his disability) or know that you can get a private atty to push the issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 467482, member: 1233"] I would have a FIT. First that they didn't separate him from this other kid, that the 1:1 aid is not stopping this other boy teaching him sex words and egging him one (isn't that part of the job description? you know - being with him all the time so this doesn't happen or is greatly reduced?), second that he can't go to lunch for behavior done in class. Punishing him for seizure behavior is like punishing him for breathing or blinking. He has the same control over these phrases as he does, probably even less control because you can breathe faster or slower and you can control blinking to some degree. PUSH them to punish the other boy because this is not appropriate. Then have a fit because they are NOT allowed to punish him for manifestations of his disability. Period. It is NOT negotiable or optional. Well, if you are in the US it isn't. Even if it is, this is NOT an appropriate punishment. Have him sit separate from other kids with his aide for a week if they have to do something. But seriously, where was the aide when the boy taught him this? Has anyone answered that question satisfactorily? Check out the tourettes website and also call your neuro to get a letter or something explaining that this is seizure behavior and you are working to control it but that difficult child is NOT to be punished for it. I am SURE that the neuro is aware of his inability to control this. Point out to the school that this is only done because seizures and because the other kids reinforce it and told him it was okay - that was the start of it, but then it got stuck in his brain and now he can't stop it. Also DEMAND that the other boy get WHATEVER punishment that difficult child gets because I am VERY sure that the other boy knew it was not okay to say and he taught it to difficult child anyway. Ask the school to let you explain to the other parents if possible. Here when a child has a problem like this they educate the whole class on the disability in a general way and teach them acceptance and tolerance. Doesn't always work on the teachers, but the kids are awesome about it at all levels of school because it has been done for over 20 yrs here. So a child with a problem may get some teasing and bullying but the other kids usually tell the teacher or will tell the parents what is going on if the teacher won't handle the bullies. The tourettes foundation has some AWESOME info to help educate teachers and classrooms. At least I am pretty sure that is where husband's coworker found it. A guy he used to work with had a son with tourettes and at one point would blurt out things like your difficult child along with various racial slurs that other kids taught him. Things said with emphasis are often repeated, so this man and his wife would use the same type of emphasis with other, more acceptable words and one year were able to get the teacher and other kids to help. It made a huge difference. Maybe at home you can put swear type emphasis on words like fudge, baloney, or whatever seems like it might work. It couldn't hurt and might help replace these words, esp if you gave him some "consequence" to be the "negative" attention and shock that originally made these words appeal to him. While he isn't a toddler, this is waht we did wehn my kids picked up swear wrods from us when they were too young to understand that they couldn't say them. This is something the school can help with and is a positive step that has a lot better chance of helping him and stopping the phrases than depriving him of the chances to learn appropriate social behavior in unstructured settings like the lunchroom. Has anyone ever told you why they allowed him to sit with a group of kids in the lunchroom other than the ones who were approved to help him with social skills or at the sp ed table? I would be asking why that was allowed to happen when they all KNEW that he could not handle being on his own in an unstructured social setting. If you don't get a decent answer on this, maybe it is time to speak with the district sp ed director or the superintendent of schools to see why tehy allowed this to happen? You probably can bring an attorney into this and get some help in pushing the school to follow the BIP rather than doing the stupid things they are doing. either the school atty would know that this is a HUGE no-no (punishing a child for the manifestation of his disability) or know that you can get a private atty to push the issue. [/QUOTE]
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