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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 695528" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>When I was maybe 14 I was eavesdropping on a conversation of my mother and a neighbor. For some reason I felt called to contribute to the conversation with a comment about stimulated wood (i.e. the kind that others refer to as simulated.)</p><p></p><p>Forever I am stuck in a kind of echo chamber of these two words.So, now, 50 years later, I have found a context that my echo chamber can contain.</p><p></p><p>These stimulated conversations are in fact simulated or pseudo conversations. These words imply similar but important distinctions in their connotations. Simulated, implies manufactured. Pseudo is fake, phony, deceitful.</p><p></p><p>I knew I had heard the term "pseudo conversation." And here it is, from the Cobol computer programming language:</p><p></p><p><u>In <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_processing" target="_blank">transaction processing</a>, a <strong>pseudoconversational transaction</strong> is a type of transaction that emulates a true conversation in an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive" target="_blank">interactive</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_%28computer_science%29" target="_blank">session</a>. To the end user, it appears as though the program has simply "paused" to request further input, whereas in reality, most resources are released while the input is waiting to be received.</u></p><p></p><p>Parents, <em>we are the end users </em>of the conversation which emulates a true conversation. In reality, these kinds of conversations with our children are instrumental actions, whose intent to act upon an object. <u>The object is you.</u> <em>While it appears the program has simply paused to request further input</em> from you...it would be false to assume that there are resources (committed to further communication on the part of our children).</p><p></p><p>It is the response to which COM refers that is the product they seek. No different than a slot machine or an ATM. They operate on us in these interactions which are interactive only in that<u> they send information to us to produce in us a result.</u> It is the simulation of true interaction. Our participation was only as recipient.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 695528, member: 18958"] When I was maybe 14 I was eavesdropping on a conversation of my mother and a neighbor. For some reason I felt called to contribute to the conversation with a comment about stimulated wood (i.e. the kind that others refer to as simulated.) Forever I am stuck in a kind of echo chamber of these two words.So, now, 50 years later, I have found a context that my echo chamber can contain. These stimulated conversations are in fact simulated or pseudo conversations. These words imply similar but important distinctions in their connotations. Simulated, implies manufactured. Pseudo is fake, phony, deceitful. I knew I had heard the term "pseudo conversation." And here it is, from the Cobol computer programming language: [U]In [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_processing']transaction processing[/URL], a [B]pseudoconversational transaction[/B] is a type of transaction that emulates a true conversation in an [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive']interactive[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_%28computer_science%29']session[/URL]. To the end user, it appears as though the program has simply "paused" to request further input, whereas in reality, most resources are released while the input is waiting to be received.[/U] Parents, [I]we are the end users [/I]of the conversation which emulates a true conversation. In reality, these kinds of conversations with our children are instrumental actions, whose intent to act upon an object. [U]The object is you.[/U] [I]While it appears the program has simply paused to request further input[/I] from you...it would be false to assume that there are resources (committed to further communication on the part of our children). It is the response to which COM refers that is the product they seek. No different than a slot machine or an ATM. They operate on us in these interactions which are interactive only in that[U] they send information to us to produce in us a result.[/U] It is the simulation of true interaction. Our participation was only as recipient. [/QUOTE]
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