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Another young man in town hung himself
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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 554005" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Suicide is a pretty serious solution. From one who has lived with mental illness, my guess is that people always k illed themselves, but that it was considered so shameful (even a sin in some religions) that suicide was not named as a cause many times when it was. I don't think healthy people kill themselves. Suicide is associated strongly with serious depression and I believe bipolar has the highest rate of suicide in any demographic, even higher than schizophrenia (I read this, do not know if it is accurate). </p><p></p><p>I don't think suicide has anything to do with parenting, just as any sort of difficult child-ing is due to parenting. I do think it is part of mental illness, and most people with unstable mental illness can not handle pressure as well as balanced individuals. Certainly, the woman who killed her husband and child then herself was not at all mentally normal and did not handle situations in any normal way. </p><p></p><p>Just as autism has come out of the closet (it was hidden back in my day and most types of autism were not even acknowledged), suicide has come out of the category of "dirty little secrets in my family tree." With the internet, it is very hard to hide anything today. It was much easier to do it in the past. I think we sometimes try to make things too simple...one plus one equals two when often it doesn't, at least no t in real life.</p><p></p><p>I'd bet that almost everyone who commits suicide has a history of mental illness and/or drug abuse in his/her background. Also, many don't have strong family support. Unfortunately, I spent many years being suicidal and nobody EVER tried to solve my problems for me. My family life was totally neglectful and everyone denied I had a mental illness. Any trauma I went through was on my own. So I will agree to disagree and continue thinking that suicide is just more known about now than it used to be. An interesting bit of trivia is that if somebody has a relative who has committed suicide, they are at higher risk. I really think some of it is genetic. Doubt anyone committed suicide because he/she got a pass if she didn't turn in homework or if he/she forgot his gym suit...unless there was also mental illness involved.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 554005, member: 1550"] Suicide is a pretty serious solution. From one who has lived with mental illness, my guess is that people always k illed themselves, but that it was considered so shameful (even a sin in some religions) that suicide was not named as a cause many times when it was. I don't think healthy people kill themselves. Suicide is associated strongly with serious depression and I believe bipolar has the highest rate of suicide in any demographic, even higher than schizophrenia (I read this, do not know if it is accurate). I don't think suicide has anything to do with parenting, just as any sort of difficult child-ing is due to parenting. I do think it is part of mental illness, and most people with unstable mental illness can not handle pressure as well as balanced individuals. Certainly, the woman who killed her husband and child then herself was not at all mentally normal and did not handle situations in any normal way. Just as autism has come out of the closet (it was hidden back in my day and most types of autism were not even acknowledged), suicide has come out of the category of "dirty little secrets in my family tree." With the internet, it is very hard to hide anything today. It was much easier to do it in the past. I think we sometimes try to make things too simple...one plus one equals two when often it doesn't, at least no t in real life. I'd bet that almost everyone who commits suicide has a history of mental illness and/or drug abuse in his/her background. Also, many don't have strong family support. Unfortunately, I spent many years being suicidal and nobody EVER tried to solve my problems for me. My family life was totally neglectful and everyone denied I had a mental illness. Any trauma I went through was on my own. So I will agree to disagree and continue thinking that suicide is just more known about now than it used to be. An interesting bit of trivia is that if somebody has a relative who has committed suicide, they are at higher risk. I really think some of it is genetic. Doubt anyone committed suicide because he/she got a pass if she didn't turn in homework or if he/she forgot his gym suit...unless there was also mental illness involved. [/QUOTE]
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