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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 554073" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>I believe that suicides have more to do with mental health and how well that part is taken care than with anything else. Or maybe with culture and 'trendiness' of suicides. Suicides are well known to be epidemic, as odd as it sounds, they are like infectious disease. Especially wrong kind of media attention for them tends to increase suicides significantly. </p><p></p><p>We have some of the same complaints of our young you have mentioned, but still our suicide numbers are going down significantly (30 % in twenty years.) So I wouldn't blame lack of coping skills and not knowing how to deal with disappointments when it comes to suicides. But in my country there has been a lot of talk about if the increase of depression and anxiety are partly because of lacking coping skills and kids not learning to overcome difficulties because parents help too much.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately at the same time also our society is going to direction there 'helicopter parenting' starts to make more and more sense. I can easily understand why US parents feel need to save their kids from their own troubles. To be honest your society doesn't feel too forgiving and people are not getting too many second chances. Your kids seem to have to do well in school from early age to be in track for good college. And bigger screw ups during High School can be very costly. I can easily see how parents would feel that consequence of some relatively small misstep in school is too big and try to save their kid from that. I have to say that after reading this board, I'm dumbstruck of your legal system. Before, after watching movies and tv shows I for example thought that felonies were really big crimes and that is why it made some sense that being a felon would influence rest of your life (even though even that feels quite a bad idea for me), but here it seems that many of your difficult children have felony convictions from things I would consider rather common stupid teen kid crimes, that are mostly just idiotic and not too serious.</p><p></p><p>Our criminal system id much softer but our schools have transformed more to direction of yours. For example in old times in our High School only last year grades counted. So even if you did badly two years you could make it up by working hard in the third. Now you have to do well during three years to have high grades. still we do have more emphasize on finals though and it is not uncommon for someone to have a bad GPA and good results from finals and our Universities are mostly interested about the grades of finals. And they still accept most of their students based on entrance exams so those who flunked both grades and finals still have a chance. But they are changing the system so that emphasize is more in grades which of course makes a system much less forgiving for mistakes. And it is hard to let your kid make mistakes, if the consequences are in no respect of the mistake.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 554073, member: 14557"] I believe that suicides have more to do with mental health and how well that part is taken care than with anything else. Or maybe with culture and 'trendiness' of suicides. Suicides are well known to be epidemic, as odd as it sounds, they are like infectious disease. Especially wrong kind of media attention for them tends to increase suicides significantly. We have some of the same complaints of our young you have mentioned, but still our suicide numbers are going down significantly (30 % in twenty years.) So I wouldn't blame lack of coping skills and not knowing how to deal with disappointments when it comes to suicides. But in my country there has been a lot of talk about if the increase of depression and anxiety are partly because of lacking coping skills and kids not learning to overcome difficulties because parents help too much. Unfortunately at the same time also our society is going to direction there 'helicopter parenting' starts to make more and more sense. I can easily understand why US parents feel need to save their kids from their own troubles. To be honest your society doesn't feel too forgiving and people are not getting too many second chances. Your kids seem to have to do well in school from early age to be in track for good college. And bigger screw ups during High School can be very costly. I can easily see how parents would feel that consequence of some relatively small misstep in school is too big and try to save their kid from that. I have to say that after reading this board, I'm dumbstruck of your legal system. Before, after watching movies and tv shows I for example thought that felonies were really big crimes and that is why it made some sense that being a felon would influence rest of your life (even though even that feels quite a bad idea for me), but here it seems that many of your difficult children have felony convictions from things I would consider rather common stupid teen kid crimes, that are mostly just idiotic and not too serious. Our criminal system id much softer but our schools have transformed more to direction of yours. For example in old times in our High School only last year grades counted. So even if you did badly two years you could make it up by working hard in the third. Now you have to do well during three years to have high grades. still we do have more emphasize on finals though and it is not uncommon for someone to have a bad GPA and good results from finals and our Universities are mostly interested about the grades of finals. And they still accept most of their students based on entrance exams so those who flunked both grades and finals still have a chance. But they are changing the system so that emphasize is more in grades which of course makes a system much less forgiving for mistakes. And it is hard to let your kid make mistakes, if the consequences are in no respect of the mistake. [/QUOTE]
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