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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 554126" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>my perspective for that is not from tv and movies (that was the understanding that felonies are serious crimes), but more from local kids and their parents who have went to US colleges (mostly with sport scholarships) and some ex-pats I know who have lived in the USA for years, had their kids in your schools and considered letting their kids to go to college in the USA. According to them good four year colleges (and continuing after that, sole bachelor degree doesn't get you far in our country so even if kid goes college in the USA but thinks coming back they have to plan post-graduate to have jobs most of us middle class people want to our kids) want very high GPA through High School and any kind of disciplinary issues are considered very serious hindrances. Even one or two F's when kids are still rather young and first or second year of High School can be a major issue. </p><p></p><p>And first you have to get your kid to right track of classes starting from middle school or even earlier. Your average smart, but lazy and immature kid can screw their possibilities of higher academical tracks when they are still in middle school by not doing/turning in homework, even if they do master the material. That happened to one child in the family I know. They spent over a deacde in the USA and because of not turning in the homework in middle school (and parents wanting to teach him a lesson and not getting involved), their very smart kid wasn't able to get to IB program in High School, had to take lower level courses, couldn't be send back home to University because of low level of courses in High School (he would had needed to re-do high school at home to be considered ready for college level work here, our academic path High School is very similar to IB, level of work is the same and differences between the two are very small all together), parents had to pay for huge amount of money for him to go to college in very mediocre US college and only after having very high GPA on there for four years he was able to get back on track and come back home for post-graduate degree. Not helicoptering, when child was in middle school cost that family over 100 000 dollars. I can easily see, why people don't want to take that chance.</p><p></p><p>And your kids are very easily suspended and even expelled from school in our standards. Let's put it this way, my kids have combined 23 years of school behind them. During that time not even one student has been expelled from their schools. I know about one suspension from those years and it was a major gossip because it is so very rare. From my point of view, you are very harsh with long term consequences with your kids. Our society is mostly much more eager to give a fresh starts and second chances after screw ups. Of course we have much less people, so we simply can not afford to cast away people like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 554126, member: 14557"] my perspective for that is not from tv and movies (that was the understanding that felonies are serious crimes), but more from local kids and their parents who have went to US colleges (mostly with sport scholarships) and some ex-pats I know who have lived in the USA for years, had their kids in your schools and considered letting their kids to go to college in the USA. According to them good four year colleges (and continuing after that, sole bachelor degree doesn't get you far in our country so even if kid goes college in the USA but thinks coming back they have to plan post-graduate to have jobs most of us middle class people want to our kids) want very high GPA through High School and any kind of disciplinary issues are considered very serious hindrances. Even one or two F's when kids are still rather young and first or second year of High School can be a major issue. And first you have to get your kid to right track of classes starting from middle school or even earlier. Your average smart, but lazy and immature kid can screw their possibilities of higher academical tracks when they are still in middle school by not doing/turning in homework, even if they do master the material. That happened to one child in the family I know. They spent over a deacde in the USA and because of not turning in the homework in middle school (and parents wanting to teach him a lesson and not getting involved), their very smart kid wasn't able to get to IB program in High School, had to take lower level courses, couldn't be send back home to University because of low level of courses in High School (he would had needed to re-do high school at home to be considered ready for college level work here, our academic path High School is very similar to IB, level of work is the same and differences between the two are very small all together), parents had to pay for huge amount of money for him to go to college in very mediocre US college and only after having very high GPA on there for four years he was able to get back on track and come back home for post-graduate degree. Not helicoptering, when child was in middle school cost that family over 100 000 dollars. I can easily see, why people don't want to take that chance. And your kids are very easily suspended and even expelled from school in our standards. Let's put it this way, my kids have combined 23 years of school behind them. During that time not even one student has been expelled from their schools. I know about one suspension from those years and it was a major gossip because it is so very rare. From my point of view, you are very harsh with long term consequences with your kids. Our society is mostly much more eager to give a fresh starts and second chances after screw ups. Of course we have much less people, so we simply can not afford to cast away people like that. [/QUOTE]
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