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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 601986" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>Sig: He does have lot to lose. His very good control over his addiction issues, his progress with his other, much major, issues, his career and rest of his reputation, he has been re-building. In some ways he has pulled himself out from very deep hole. And the other type of approach to addiction management has worked very well for him and he has worked hard on that program and has had very good results. And this team wasn't one who was giving him a chance, when he really was in deep poo-poo. It was the last one. And all the hard work done there is the reason why this option is on the table.</p><p></p><p>Telling difficult child that he has to do it their way, because it is the only opportunity he has left wouldn't work. Simply because this isn't difficult child's best paid or highest level or most lucrative option. It is just the one, that would maybe be one of the best for his sport development for the moment and give him a break and adventure factor. His other two sport wise best options don't offer that and of course have their own down factors (like very small town in backwoods and with long bus drives to away games in other one.)</p><p></p><p>And to be honest, while I really hope difficult child would give GA an honest try, if GA isn't working for him, I also hope difficult child chooses to advocate for more fitting treatment for himself. Improper and medically inadvisable treatment would not only be against the contract the team has with player's union but against the worker laws of that country according difficult child's agent. In fact trying to force GA in the first place is very iffy. It doesn't have medical support and is a laymen movement. Very helpful to many, but not something our employers are allowed to force their employees to. Of course it is much more cost effective to the team than providing difficult child private addiction psychiatrist or psychologist appointments. difficult child wouldn't get those from the public side any more, because he is not considered to be in need of that treatment any more.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Of course it could be considered wrong from difficult child to go into a contract knowing he doesn't like one of the requirements and knowing he may be trying to get away from it. Of course other side knows difficult child agent wasn't happy with that clause and wanted the loop hole there for the reason. And difficult child of course has every intention to give the team the services they are paying for him in his best ability. These negotiations were not easy in the first place. The agent had to even threaten to end negotiations there because GM was unwilling to make a clause about them providing difficult child sport psychiatric services, either local one or paying the fees of difficult child's own with difficult child providing transportation for his own sport psychiatric (yeah, we are buying quite a few plane tickets in future if difficult child signs to this team.) And according the agent it seemed to be more about principle than money. That of course is a red flag, but then again coaches seem to be open to mental coaching, only GM is old school. And GM's have usually very little to do with everyday life of the team.</p><p></p><p>MWM: Yeah, those are good stuff. difficult child is mostly against admitting no power over the problem and giving it to the hands of higher power. The treatment he has received and done well with, emphasizes the control over actions and thoughts and also over addiction and active techniques to control person's own addiction cycle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 601986, member: 14557"] Sig: He does have lot to lose. His very good control over his addiction issues, his progress with his other, much major, issues, his career and rest of his reputation, he has been re-building. In some ways he has pulled himself out from very deep hole. And the other type of approach to addiction management has worked very well for him and he has worked hard on that program and has had very good results. And this team wasn't one who was giving him a chance, when he really was in deep poo-poo. It was the last one. And all the hard work done there is the reason why this option is on the table. Telling difficult child that he has to do it their way, because it is the only opportunity he has left wouldn't work. Simply because this isn't difficult child's best paid or highest level or most lucrative option. It is just the one, that would maybe be one of the best for his sport development for the moment and give him a break and adventure factor. His other two sport wise best options don't offer that and of course have their own down factors (like very small town in backwoods and with long bus drives to away games in other one.) And to be honest, while I really hope difficult child would give GA an honest try, if GA isn't working for him, I also hope difficult child chooses to advocate for more fitting treatment for himself. Improper and medically inadvisable treatment would not only be against the contract the team has with player's union but against the worker laws of that country according difficult child's agent. In fact trying to force GA in the first place is very iffy. It doesn't have medical support and is a laymen movement. Very helpful to many, but not something our employers are allowed to force their employees to. Of course it is much more cost effective to the team than providing difficult child private addiction psychiatrist or psychologist appointments. difficult child wouldn't get those from the public side any more, because he is not considered to be in need of that treatment any more. EDIT: Of course it could be considered wrong from difficult child to go into a contract knowing he doesn't like one of the requirements and knowing he may be trying to get away from it. Of course other side knows difficult child agent wasn't happy with that clause and wanted the loop hole there for the reason. And difficult child of course has every intention to give the team the services they are paying for him in his best ability. These negotiations were not easy in the first place. The agent had to even threaten to end negotiations there because GM was unwilling to make a clause about them providing difficult child sport psychiatric services, either local one or paying the fees of difficult child's own with difficult child providing transportation for his own sport psychiatric (yeah, we are buying quite a few plane tickets in future if difficult child signs to this team.) And according the agent it seemed to be more about principle than money. That of course is a red flag, but then again coaches seem to be open to mental coaching, only GM is old school. And GM's have usually very little to do with everyday life of the team. MWM: Yeah, those are good stuff. difficult child is mostly against admitting no power over the problem and giving it to the hands of higher power. The treatment he has received and done well with, emphasizes the control over actions and thoughts and also over addiction and active techniques to control person's own addiction cycle. [/QUOTE]
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